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Post by dem bones on Jun 10, 2021 15:58:09 GMT
The chapter is titled A Most Unfeminine Exhibition and the violence and sheer loathing shown toward the players is indeed "shocking." Those few articles and two books I've read on women's football in Britain skim over the late Victorian era and concentrate on the popular munitions factory teams of WWII, most notably the Dick Kerr Ladies who played to massive crowds and were seemingly well received wherever they played - except by the FA, who felt their popularity posed too much of a threat to the men's game and promptly banned them for fifty-plus years! Yes. I read they got very big crowds, and that was one of the reasons they were banned. I thought it was in the '30s, but looking I see it was just after the Great War. Such a shame. During and after the Great War as it turns out, and not whatever damn fool time period I posted. Anyway. EURO 2020 kicks off tomorrow. Just saying.
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on Jun 10, 2021 17:20:09 GMT
Yes. I read they got very big crowds, and that was one of the reasons they were banned. I thought it was in the '30s, but looking I see it was just after the Great War. Such a shame. During and after the Great War as it turns out, and not whatever damn fool time period I posted. Anyway. EURO 2020 kicks off tomorrow. Just saying. I know nothing about this I am afraid. Who are favourites? I'm assuming England will lose on penalties. I'm told Wales are a decent team. It would be fun if they did well. Edited to say I'm told Scotland are there too. Three British teams how good is that! I wish them all well. (put on wrong post originally)
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on Jun 10, 2021 17:24:55 GMT
Princess, your convent wasn't called St Trinian's by any chance, was it? It sounds... colorful. I'm glad these healthy young women were encouraged to exercise their natural female vitality in such wholesome activities. cheers, Hel It was so sheltered a life that I never saw a real man until I was 14. We used to draw wild guesses as to what they looked like in the flesh. Mine was a cross between the upper body of King Kong and a sea horse.
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Post by helrunar on Jun 10, 2021 17:40:00 GMT
I realize that I truly know nothing at all about any team sports, but... EURO 2020 is kicking off in June 2021? That's one hell of a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey jello salad, Boss.
H.
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Post by ripper on Jun 10, 2021 18:44:17 GMT
I realize that I truly know nothing at all about any team sports, but... EURO 2020 is kicking off in June 2021? That's one hell of a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey jello salad, Boss. H. The pandemic led to its postponement last year, like the Olympics. I was optimistic about England's chances, but as the start of the competition looms, past experience means I am less confident. They have some good players, but Southgate will have to get the best out of them, and that has been the rub for decades: the whole being less than the sum of the parts.
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Post by helrunar on Jun 10, 2021 18:49:14 GMT
Thanks for explaining.
So will "EURO 2021" be held later this year? Or next year? And will there be nude charity calendars? Inquiring minds, you know.
Wibbly-wobbly...
H.
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Post by dem bones on Jun 10, 2021 19:11:39 GMT
I was optimistic about England's chances, but as the start of the competition looms, past experience means I am less confident. They have some good players, but Southgate will have to get the best out of them, and that has been the rub for decades: the whole being less than the sum of the parts. Hi Rip, are you up for a place on our specialist Euro 2020 panel? Looks like we may be low on numbers this year, but early days. Maybe Craig can bring us exclusive updates from the Scots camp? princesstuvstarr impresses as a sporting all-rounder, so perhaps a pitch-side commentary on Austria - N. Macedonia? Who else? Paging Mr. Hack. Where's Franklin/ Fritz?
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on Jun 10, 2021 19:35:41 GMT
Hi Rip, are you up for a place on our specialist Euro 2020 panel? Looks like we may be low on numbers this year, but early days. Maybe Craig can bring us exclusive updates from the Scots camp? princesstuvstarr impresses as a sporting all-rounder, so perhaps a pitch-side commentary on Austria - N. Macedonia? Who else? Paging Mr. Hack. Where's Franklin/ Fritz?
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Oh, will you be doing commentary, and giving your predictions? Where are your past ones? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Will there be a thread for it?
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Post by dem bones on Jun 11, 2021 8:15:05 GMT
Oh, will you be doing commentary, and giving your predictions? Where are your past ones? I did a quick search and couldn't find anything. Will there be a thread for it? Indeed there will. This was us at Russia 2018
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Post by Craig Herbertson on Jun 15, 2021 17:30:51 GMT
It means bringing the ball to the ground using chest, thighs or feet while retaining control and possession, generally after receiving via a pass, throw-in, goal kick and so forth from another player, or an interception from an opposing team's player. Players can do it while running and trapping the ball so it advances up the pitch and they can run onto it, but, of course, some are more skilled than others. I just remembered that Jimmy Greaves was a team captain on Sporting Triangles, ITV's answer to the BBC's A Question of Sport. He also had a short-lived chat show that I vaguely recall being supposedly set in his house. I'll try football banter: "Georgie Best would be good at that." How did I do? I've been told to mention Georgie Best if football is ever mentioned. Edited to say Ripper I'm so pleased that you replied that next time someone has to duel a vampire on my behalf you are that man. You've been taught well. Ripper's explanation is very good. Jimmy was a striker - that is a goal scorer, so had an excellent shot. So he's making a joke that the player when trying to control the ball, made it go further than he could shoot he is saying he has terrible control.
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Post by Craig Herbertson on Jun 15, 2021 17:47:28 GMT
Yes. I read they got very big crowds, and that was one of the reasons they were banned. I thought it was in the '30s, but looking I see it was just after the Great War. Such a shame. During and after the Great War as it turns out, and not whatever damn fool time period I posted. Anyway. EURO 2020 kicks off tomorrow. Just saying. Happened in France as well. I did a gig with a French Historian and participated in his book reading. Understood bugger all as my French can barely order a beer but there were lots of pictures of women playing all sorts of sports including rugby to immense crowds. Was quite eye opening.
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Post by dem bones on Jun 16, 2021 10:20:46 GMT
During and after the Great War as it turns out, and not whatever damn fool time period I posted. Anyway. EURO 2020 kicks off tomorrow. Just saying. Happened in France as well. I did a gig with a French Historian and participated in his book reading. Understood bugger all as my French can barely order a beer but there were lots of pictures of women playing all sorts of sports including rugby to immense crowds. Was quite eye opening. Hi Craig. I think the French national women's football team were the first to travel overseas for matches? They came over in 1920 to play four games against England, the usual huge crowds, and by now the attitude to the players was much more respectful. Tim Tate's history of the Dick, Kerr Ladies - England for the occasion - is excellent, and there's surely a fascinating book to be had on the women's game in Britain during the wilderness years (circa mid-20s to mid-70s?) when it good as operated underground. (Has one been written?)
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on Jun 17, 2021 12:13:03 GMT
A male fiend I know had a book on his shelf of "Humorous Sporting Quotations." As it's football season I borrowed it and thought I'd share some with you. (Should point out I don't know who many (any?) of these people are). Here are a few random ones:
first one is:
It looks like I'm trying to stab Dave Bassett in the back, but I'm not holding a gun to anyone's head.- Micky Adams (Whoever he is)
Jose Mourinho has got the Midas touch just now - Everything he touches turns to silver - Richard Keys (Nope, no idea)
The Baggio brothers, of course, are not related - George Hamilton (Still no clue, name reminds me of an old actor)
We have a young side that will only get younger - Paul Hart (?)
And one for the boys here:
We play what I call "orgy football": The other teams know their going to get it, but they don't know from whom or where from - Sam Hammam on Cardiff City. (Heard of Cardiff)
Please suggest a name or team and I'll see if I can find any linked to them.
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Post by Craig Herbertson on Jul 10, 2021 17:46:23 GMT
Happened in France as well. I did a gig with a French Historian and participated in his book reading. Understood bugger all as my French can barely order a beer but there were lots of pictures of women playing all sorts of sports including rugby to immense crowds. Was quite eye opening. Hi Craig. I think the French national women's football team were the first to travel overseas for matches? They came over in 1920 to play four games against England, the usual huge crowds, and by now the attitude to the players was much more respectful. Tim Tate's history of the Dick, Kerr Ladies - England for the occasion - is excellent, and there's surely a fascinating book to be had on the women's game in Britain during the wilderness years (circa mid-20s to mid-70s?) when it good as operated underground. (Has one been written?) I haven't seen one Dem. I think the French chap was quite a groundbreaker, It was launched in Amiens. I forget his name unfortunately. To be honest, as a man whose understanding of women's sports is largely based around St Trinian's films, I was humbled and ashamed of the way the girls were treated. They were really thriving and the men put the boot in.
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Post by dem bones on Jul 10, 2021 18:10:49 GMT
I haven't seen one Dem. I think the French chap was quite a groundbreaker, It was launched in Amiens. I forget his name unfortunately. To be honest, as a man whose understanding of women's sports is largely based around St Trinian's films, I was humbled and ashamed of the way the girls were treated. They were really thriving and the men put the boot in. Good to hear from you, Craig. Strikes me that the recent history of the womens game in UK is quite well documented - players publishing autobiographies, own football show on TV, internationals, cup final and Co. shown on mainstream terrestrial channels - but there seems so little about the wilderness decades and I'm sure that's where the story is. Also, the six team 1971 women's world cup - staged in the Aztec Stadium before capacity crowds of 108, 000 - sounds brilliant and occasionally, not a little violent on the pitch.
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