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Post by allthingshorror on Oct 12, 2009 9:17:45 GMT
Panther (1967)IN THE BRONX, EIGHT BOYS, LONG SIDEBURNS AND CREW-CUT TOPS, THICK SWEATERS DESPITE THE HEAT, AND SNEERING LOOKS ON THEIR MURDEROUS IRISH FACES, MOUNTED THE CROSSTOWN BUS. THE DRIVER FELT THE BACK OF HIS NECK TURN TO ICE.
July 4th, American Independence Day
The teenage gangs - white, Puerto Rican, Negro... 17 year old youths juggling with snake coiled bicycle chains, 15 year old girl friends nursing knives in their pockets - declare a truce to their interminable warfare and stream out from the appalling slums into downtown New York. The snobs are going to be given a rumble. So begins, as rockets soar into the sky to explode into shimmering American flags, a night of madness, orgy, murder. The reader will certainly finish THE WARRIORS awestruck on a new unbelievable level of awareness
Yup - the film of the same name was based on this beauty
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Post by dem on Oct 12, 2009 9:42:53 GMT
.... as in 'very loosely based' or even 'but you wouldn't really know it'. Given a fair chance, Yurick's novel is a lot better than i ever gave it credit for, but buying it on the back of the fillum - so disappointing
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Post by allthingshorror on Oct 12, 2009 9:52:31 GMT
really? It was the only reason I bought it for!Oh well - it'll go nearer the bottom of the 'to read' pile then...
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Post by dem on Oct 12, 2009 10:40:26 GMT
It's probably brilliant in its own right, but, from memory, 'the Warriors' - as in the film Warriors: Swan, Cochise, Cowboy, Rembrandt, etc. - don't feature in the novel and the era is entirely different, circa Sharks versus Jets? Don''t let me put you off. I wasn't much impressed with Gordon Williams' Siege Of Trencher's Farm/ Straw Dogs when I first read that, doubtless 'cause it wasn't identical in every detail to the film it inspired. Went back to it a couple of years ago and loved it to death.
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Post by mattofthespurs on Oct 12, 2009 10:59:43 GMT
I read this a couple of months ago and can't say I was impressed.
As has been pointed out it's very different from the film with only one or two set pieces from the book making it to the movie.
I will say that I thought the big meeting of all the gangs near the start was better than the movie but that's about all the good I can say of it.
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Post by franklinmarsh on Oct 23, 2009 21:31:16 GMT
And Star absolutely bust a gut with this terrifying film tie-in circa '79. Always nice to see A Clockwork Orange as the touchstone for youth cult thuggery. And The Warriors was Walter Hill's version of the Orange, as Southern Comfort was his Deliverance, and The Long Riders was his Wild Bunch. Or was that Extreme Prejudice? Oh, sod it - I confess - The Baseball Furies were just channelling Kiss. "The Fourth of July dawned hot and ominous. The city was fizzing - ready to go off like a string of firecrackers. The big rumble was on. It would take Papa Arnold's Family far from their Brooklyn turf. Before the night was out they would have to fight their way back home. They would confront the city's dangers, its violence, its mysteries. They would rape and kill. But, above all, they would stick together. They were brothers. The Family was the only family they had."
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Post by drauch on Jul 29, 2021 15:09:51 GMT
Finished this a couple months back. Had some words from another forum that I'll just repost here:
Not a whole lot of similarities to the film at all. Basically the Cyrus gang treaty meetup and the fact that The Warriors (here The Devastators) need to get back to Coney Island on their own turf. They aren't framed for the murder in the book; it simply just happens, as it strives for a more realistic approach rather than the comic gang escape. And, since there's a bunch of white supremacist gangs and other shitheads, they pretty much just turn on the speaker immediately, sparking all-out chaos when the cops arrive, prompting the gang to make it back to their turf.
Yurick worked in social services and such with troubled youth and wanted to showcase more realistic delinquent youth in gangs, rather than the West Side Story glamorization. Here the gang members are all 14-17 years of age. There's not much interaction with the other gangs, and nobody is necessarily out to get them, they're just ever aware that they're on other gangs' turf and need to head home. This doesn't stop them of course by tagging others' turfs and such. Kinda reads like Hubert Selby's Last Exit to Brooklyn, like an objective view of these troubled youths doing terrible things amidst urban decay. They're all pretty detestable, yet there's still this sense of humanity in just wanting to belong to something when they don't have much. Mainly just a bunch of confused teens raping and dicking around, to be frank.
Enjoyable (in a sense), but clearly not meant to be a pleasant experience. Some of Yurick's dialogue and actions are a little questionable, and after reading an analysis at the end of the book by himself he's pretty full of himself and meebee a bit out of touch. If planning to read, definitely distance yourself completely from the movie. I guess that should go without saying for any film/book experience, and it's hard to do, but you're better off not expecting something fun and more fantastical.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 1:21:57 GMT
I read the book years ago. The gang was called "The Coney Island Dominators" not the destroyers or devestators.
The book was honestly the biggest lump of crap I ever read. I was visualizing the characters as the characters in the movie. The girl who is the equivelant of Mercy, gets gang raped. They "pull a train" on her.. They attack a man who is walking along and they slash his cheeks open and it's very descriptive above his exposed teeth and the flesh of his cheek flapping open, then they all start throwing knives into the sky and watching them plummet down into the guys chest
I honestly don't know what kind of vomit puke disgusting human sits down to write such vile filth. "oh yeah I'm going to write a fun book about a bunch of guys raping and violently murdering.. good times'
deplorable
I had never heard of the movie until I purchased the Sony Playstation 2 game around 2006 because it looked cool and it said that the game was based off a movie, so I bought the movie and loved it. book is crap
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Nov 9, 2023 8:35:27 GMT
What did I miss?
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Post by dem on Nov 9, 2023 10:52:24 GMT
You didn't. They registered, posted the above, then deleted their account.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Nov 9, 2023 11:15:51 GMT
You didn't. They registered, posted the above, then deleted their account. Highly irregular behavior!
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on Nov 9, 2023 12:07:48 GMT
You didn't. They registered, posted the above, then deleted their account. I hope getting it off his chest helped. The film seems much more fantasy than the book which I notice was written in 1965. By 1979, the time of the film, the fires had taken hold in New York and the flight of the middle classes into the suburbs left vast areas like a wasteland. The fantastical gang element is ripped off in Bronx Warriors, an Italian film, that I watched recently. The bike gang in that is led by a man who looks like he should be posing on a catwalk. Fortunatly The Warriors has not been remade.
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Post by sadako on Nov 20, 2023 7:48:14 GMT
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Post by granpamunster on Feb 25, 2024 14:59:11 GMT
Read the book about the time I could change my own diapers, and would liken any similarity with the film in the same vein as comparing 'The Goodies" big bunny episode with Clockwork orange. You know 'fun' but slightly less sophisticated. But then that's why I like pulp books... they make me smile in that slightly unnerving way.
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Post by dem on Feb 25, 2024 15:10:50 GMT
It's a shame there was no novelisation of the film. I had a tie-in poster mag, no idea what became of it; think the same publisher also issued one for the Sex Pistols shortly before the fatal US tour. [just noticed Sadako posted the Warriors one above].
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