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Post by marksamuels on Oct 19, 2010 0:09:17 GMT
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oatcakeredux
Crab On The Rampage
I STILL know where the yellow went.
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Post by oatcakeredux on Oct 19, 2010 14:02:22 GMT
One reviewer memorably likened it to "picknicking in an open sewer".
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Post by dem bones on Oct 19, 2010 20:51:43 GMT
One reviewer memorably likened it to "picknicking in an open sewer". he wasn't fooling! sweet Jesus, that's deplorable. i hung on for the end credits expecting to see a big 'story consultant: J. Moffat' Thanks doubly for posting this, Mark because when i looked for more info, i was reunited with the very lovely Haunted TV, the site formerly known as Supernatural TV in its g*ocit**s days. incidentally, the script editor, Roger Parkes had one of his ideas rejected by Crown Court on the grounds that it was too grim. So Hugh Lamb included it in The Taste Of Fear. He also contributed Infra-Man to David Sutton's New Writings In Horror & The Supernatural; Volume 2
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oatcakeredux
Crab On The Rampage
I STILL know where the yellow went.
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Post by oatcakeredux on Oct 22, 2010 18:06:31 GMT
I'm still very unsure where I stand with To Lay A Ghost. Is the main character meant to be clearly just one disturbed woman, or did the writer seriously think that all women work like this?
It's a pity, because it does have some redeeming features - intense atmosphere and some genuinely effective shocks - but dear God that remains one fucked-up, not-so-subtext. It's the sort of thing that the completist geek in me is glad to have seen, but that the more straightforwardly-decent chap in me is glad that he now never has to see again.
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Post by marksamuels on Oct 22, 2010 22:24:23 GMT
I'm still very unsure where I stand with To Lay A Ghost. Is the main character meant to be clearly just one disturbed woman, or did the writer seriously think that all women work like this? It's a pity, because it does have some redeeming features - intense atmosphere and some genuinely effective shocks - but dear God that remains one fucked-up, not-so-subtext. It's the sort of thing that the completist geek in me is glad to have seen, but that the more straightforwardly-decent chap in me is glad that he now never has to see again. Me too. Pretty mind-blowing & disturbing stuff. Like you, I also think it's wonderfully well-made. Mark S.
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Post by lemming13 on Oct 23, 2010 10:24:12 GMT
I remember this series, and there were a few which disturbed the hell out of me, but that one had to be one of the nastiest. I don't know about couldn't be made today, though, I've seen a lot of modern horror offerings which frankly give me cause for concern about the mental health and moral code of both the writers and the audience. Funland, for one.
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Post by marillionboy on Oct 29, 2010 0:05:42 GMT
Funnily enough I was posting on another forum about this today. I really like a lot of things about this, especially the sequences of the ghost on the stairs. The cameras going off is exceptionally subtle and chilling.
It should be pointed out that it got extremely good reviews at the time, enough for it to be one of the few episodes preserved and also repeated.
When i watched this again last night with my gf, who at 21 I thought would be outraged at the attitudes on display, I actually took this time a rather different view of it. Despite Dr Filamore's line about Eric being too soft on the wife, I don't think the story is actually saying she enjoyed what happened to her or is inviting a repeat of it. Note the terror she has at the end.
I think instead the idea is that Hobbes's ghost has been influencing her behaviour and attitudes SPECIFICALLY so that he can get her alone by driving the husband away, and then when she is alone, he relaxes his mental hold on her so that he can menace her as a totally terrified innocent again. Hence why she suddenly becomes a petrified child again at the start.
That's maybe an apologist reading but I think it's an interesting one.
Great series though and superb opening titles. I love the episode Welcome Home especially.
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Post by marksamuels on Oct 29, 2010 7:14:02 GMT
Funnily enough I was posting on another forum about this today. I really like a lot of things about this, especially the sequences of the ghost on the stairs. The cameras going off is exceptionally subtle and chilling. It should be pointed out that it got extremely good reviews at the time, enough for it to be one of the few episodes preserved and also repeated. When i watched this again last night with my gf, who at 21 I thought would be outraged at the attitudes on display, I actually took this time a rather different view of it. Despite Dr Filamore's line about Eric being too soft on the wife, I don't think the story is actually saying she enjoyed what happened to her or is inviting a repeat of it. Note the terror she has at the end. I think instead the idea is that Hobbes's ghost has been influencing her behaviour and attitudes SPECIFICALLY so that he can get her alone by driving the husband away, and then when she is alone, he relaxes his mental hold on her so that he can menace her as a totally terrified innocent again. Hence why she suddenly becomes a petrified child again at the start. That's maybe an apologist reading but I think it's an interesting one. Great series though and superb opening titles. I love the episode Welcome Home especially. I hadn't thought of it along those lines MB, and it's an intelligent appraisal as to a possible explanation. Yes, the sequence towards the end with the ghost coming up the stairs, captured by flash photography, is uber-creepy. Really effective. Wasn't the chap in Welcome Home one of the Masters in Dr Who? By the way, are you a Fish or H era Marillion boy? Mark S.
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Post by marillionboy on Oct 29, 2010 12:32:25 GMT
I think actually the first sequence on the stairs, when you only have the camera flashes, and don't have those subliminal frames of the ghost himself, are especially creepy. The one thing I think could have been done differently is the appearance of Hobbes on the photographs. He's TOO prominient, you couldn't have missed him if he had been there and nor could the husband. I think he should have been more in the background, like a Peeping Tom.
And definitely Fish era, though I do like some of the H stuff, Seasons End and Brave especially :-)
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Post by marksamuels on Oct 29, 2010 17:47:21 GMT
I think actually the first sequence on the stairs, when you only have the camera flashes, and don't have those subliminal frames of the ghost himself, are especially creepy. The one thing I think could have been done differently is the appearance of Hobbes on the photographs. He's TOO prominient, you couldn't have missed him if he had been there and nor could the husband. I think he should have been more in the background, like a Peeping Tom. And definitely Fish era, though I do like some of the H stuff, Seasons End and Brave especially :-) Ah, for me, that part was a good prelude; the flashes of the spectre actually appearing spooked me, especially as it was only the body and the hand on the stair rail that were seen and not his face. You're quite right about Hobbes being seen too much of elsewhere though, esp. in the photos. I grew up with the Fish-era (bought the 2nd album when it came out) and my fav of all is probably Clutching at Straws. I also, though, like the H albums you mention, with Marbles added to the list. Mark S.
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Post by ripper on Dec 2, 2012 12:48:27 GMT
I saw "To Lay a Ghost" fairly recently and thought that it was well-made and acted, with some very disturbing themes. The only episode that I remember seeing at the time of transmission was "The Chopper," about a haunted motor-cycle, and written by Nigel Kneale. Sadly, I think the episode no longer exists.
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