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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 2, 2021 18:49:08 GMT
Sounds like an endorsement Trust me, it is not.
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Post by Dr Strange on Sept 2, 2021 20:24:04 GMT
Don't think so. I can't really watch films on YouTube, I always end up fast-forwarding through bits, which I never do with discs. I know what you mean. The quality on youtube is often so terrible - or the movies too - that I also often do some fast-forwarding. Normally I do this only on stuff taped on the hard-drive of my tv-gizmo. Being able to increase playback speed and still get the audio on YouTube is too much of a temptation for me. Anything over 20 mins long is likely to get played at x 1.5 or 1.75 (or faster if I can still make out the dialogue) if it even starts to drag.
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Post by Dr Strange on Sept 2, 2021 20:33:31 GMT
I don't think I have ever read Harvest Home, but it seems to owe quite a lot to Shirley Jackson's The LotteryThat I would not say, as "The Lottery," although it deals with a peculiar custom, does not seem to me to involve the supernatural in any way. I think I somehow had got the impression that there wasn't anything (necessarily) supernatural in Harvest Home either, that it was just about "traditional beliefs". A bit like The Wicker Man. But I always felt that T E D Klein's THE CEREMONIES owes a lot to HARVEST HOME. Yes, I think so too - despite not having read Harvest Home. But I have read The Ceremonies. Is it OK if I also mention King's Children of the Corn at this point?
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 2, 2021 20:40:36 GMT
I think I somehow had got the impression that there wasn't anything (necessarily) supernatural in Harvest Home either, that it was just about "traditional beliefs". A bit like The Wicker Man. I think that is right. It is about fertility rituals, thus implying beliefs in the supernatural. But as I remember it, there are not even any beliefs in "The Lottery."
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 2, 2021 21:24:12 GMT
I think I somehow had got the impression that there wasn't anything (necessarily) supernatural in Harvest Home either, that it was just about "traditional beliefs". A bit like The Wicker Man. I think that is right. It is about fertility rituals, thus implying beliefs in the supernatural. But as I remember it, there are not even any beliefs in "The Lottery." Speaking of T E D Klein, he is apparently still alive. How does he support himself?
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Post by cauldronbrewer on Sept 2, 2021 22:55:42 GMT
I think I somehow had got the impression that there wasn't anything (necessarily) supernatural in Harvest Home either, that it was just about "traditional beliefs". A bit like The Wicker Man. I think that is right. It is about fertility rituals, thus implying beliefs in the supernatural. But as I remember it, there are not even any beliefs in "The Lottery." It's been a while since I read "The Lottery," but isn't the implication that the lottery itself was originally a fertility ritual? There's an old man who says, "Lottery in June, corn be heavy soon." However, I also seem to remember that the lottery had drifted away from its superstitious roots into more of a meaningless tradition.
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Post by Dr Strange on Sept 3, 2021 2:41:57 GMT
Speaking of T E D Klein, he is apparently still alive. How does he support himself? Seems he had some sort of "position" with multimedia publishers Conde Nast ( Vogue, The New Yorker, GQ, Vanity Fair, Wired, etc.) and only "officially retired" in 2016.
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Post by humgoo on Sept 3, 2021 4:51:14 GMT
How about the long dead girl in John Gordon's Never Grow Up? I was thinking more of the "'That's just an imaginary friend! Pretty normal for a child. Don't worry!' say the parents" type of story, but I can understand why you thought of the Gordon tale (perhaps I miss something, need to have a rematch anyway). I think "Harry" is the best among those I've read, though the ones by Frazer and Birkin are not far behind. Thanks as usual for the tips, will try to track down those stories you and other Vaulters mention above (the one in the Black Book and the one by David Campton sound very intriguing. I also don't know the RCH one mentioned by Middoth. By the way, is James Wade's "Grooley" about an imaginary friend? I haven't read that.)
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Post by dem bones on Sept 3, 2021 6:14:59 GMT
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Post by jamesdoig on Sept 3, 2021 7:08:47 GMT
Speaking of T E D Klein, he is apparently still alive. How does he support himself? Seems he had some sort of "position" with multimedia publishers Conde Nast ( Vogue, The New Yorker, GQ, Vanity Fair, Wired, etc.) and only "officially retired" in 2016. I think he inherited some money - a rich aunt or something...
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Post by weirdmonger on Sept 3, 2021 9:02:57 GMT
You are all my imaginary friends.
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Post by humgoo on Sept 3, 2021 9:17:13 GMT
Thanks again! "Mr. Lupescu" is already on my list (though it's a borderline case ... hate it when an imaginary friend turns out to be a fake!). I don't think "Blackberries" is about an imaginary friend (I remember it as one of those head-scratching "I don't get it" stories, but I may be wrong). The others I don't have access to ... maybe someday ... (The 11th Fontana Book Of Great Horror Stories is impossible to get, if I remember correctly.)
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Post by andydecker on Sept 3, 2021 10:58:38 GMT
Seems he had some sort of "position" with multimedia publishers Conde Nast ( Vogue, The New Yorker, GQ, Vanity Fair, Wired, etc.) and only "officially retired" in 2016. I think he inherited some money - a rich aunt or something... Good for him, and I say this without any snark or irony. Too many writers have fallen on hard times when getting older, so it is nice to know some got away.
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Post by andydecker on Sept 3, 2021 11:08:26 GMT
I don't think I have ever read Harvest Home, but it seems to owe quite a lot to Shirley Jackson's The LotteryThat I would not say, as "The Lottery," although it deals with a peculiar custom, does not seem to me to involve the supernatural in any way. But I always felt that T E D Klein's THE CEREMONIES owes a lot to HARVEST HOME. There are some novels who follow Tryon's plot, with or without supernatural elements. The already mentioned here, then a novel by Michael Hinkemeyer, Summer Solstice which basically lifts the plot of the Tryon book, I think there is one Shackleford The Source - which I never managed to finish - which goes into the direction, but I may misremember, and I am sure there are more.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 5, 2021 19:56:06 GMT
I think that is right. It is about fertility rituals, thus implying beliefs in the supernatural. But as I remember it, there are not even any beliefs in "The Lottery." Speaking of T E D Klein, he is apparently still alive. How does he support himself? Speaking of Klein, I discovered he has a relatively recent collection of "essays" (meaning sundry writings, including introductions to other people's books) out. It contains, among other things, a piece about meeting with Robert Aickman, which suffers slightly from the fact that he remembers very little about the encounter. Nevertheless---interesting.
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