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Post by cromagnonman on May 13, 2020 22:02:10 GMT
There is a short 80s stop motion animated film called "The Web" excerpted from TITUS GROAN which does a marvellous job of realising Peake's grotesqueries.
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Post by Knygathin on May 16, 2020 18:14:58 GMT
For a while Marion Zimmer Bradley was a kind of mandatory reading in the 80s and 90s after her The Mists of Avalon became a huge seller all over the world. ... Of course this was long before she fell from grace ... . Have never read anything by Bradley. In hindsight relieved for it, even if art and person generally should be held parallel from each other. I confused her with Leigh Brackett, whom I have not read either; but I saved two pdf files ( The Sword of Rhiannon and The Sorcerer of Rhiannon) which I've had in mind to read some day. Burroughs-like adventures, I understand. I am glad Brackett's person holds a better reputation. She looked the healthy apple-cheeked individual.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on May 16, 2020 18:30:52 GMT
Brackett is nothing like Burroughs. THE SWORD OF RHIANNON is wonderful on its own terms.
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Post by peedeel on May 20, 2020 12:53:31 GMT
For a while Marion Zimmer Bradley was a kind of mandatory reading in the 80s and 90s after her The Mists of Avalon became a huge seller all over the world. ... Of course this was long before she fell from grace ... . Have never read anything by Bradley. In hindsight relieved for it, even if art and person generally should be held parallel from each other. I confused her with Leigh Brackett, whom I have not read either; but I saved two pdf files ( The Sword of Rhiannon and The Sorcerer of Rhiannon) which I've had in mind to read some day. Burroughs-like adventures, I understand. I am glad Brackett's person holds a better reputation. She looked the healthy apple-cheeked individual. Brackett's stories set on Mars were much more decadent that ERB's. See my comments HERE
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Post by helrunar on May 20, 2020 16:36:03 GMT
That's a really intriguing review, Peedeel. I'll have to put Brackett on my list of authors to investigate!
Best wishes, Helrunar
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Post by Knygathin on May 29, 2020 17:00:56 GMT
Brackett is nothing like Burroughs. THE SWORD OF RHIANNON is wonderful on its own terms. May I venture a guess that you read this in the original hardcover T. V. Boardman edition? If so, you are a most fortunate man.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on May 29, 2020 17:52:15 GMT
Brackett is nothing like Burroughs. THE SWORD OF RHIANNON is wonderful on its own terms. May I venture a guess that you read this in the original hardcover T. V. Boardman edition? If so, you are a most fortunate man. No, the first time I read it it was the 70s Ace edition. I am, of course, nevertheless a most fortunate man.
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Post by cromagnonman on May 29, 2020 19:02:39 GMT
May I venture a guess that you read this in the original hardcover T. V. Boardman edition? If so, you are a most fortunate man. No, the first time I read it it was the 70s Ace edition. I am, of course, nevertheless a most fortunate man. Purely in the interests of pedantry; the Boardman hardback was preceded by the Ace Double paperback of 1953, making it the original edition.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on May 29, 2020 19:22:20 GMT
No, the first time I read it it was the 70s Ace edition. I am, of course, nevertheless a most fortunate man. Purely in the interests of pedantry; the Boardman hardback was preceded by the Ace Double paperback of 1953, making it the original edition. Did I say something different? Well, did I? I thought not.
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Post by cromagnonman on May 29, 2020 19:34:14 GMT
Purely in the interests of pedantry; the Boardman hardback was preceded by the Ace Double paperback of 1953, making it the original edition. Did I say something different? Well, did I? I thought not. I wasn't addressing you. Just including your response in the conversation. Jeez; try putting some ketchup on all those chips on your shoulder.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on May 29, 2020 19:57:45 GMT
Jeez; try putting some ketchup on all those chips on your shoulder. Moderator! I wish to report abuse! Some people hate me because I am brilliant and talented. Just like they did with Michael Jackson.
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Post by Knygathin on May 29, 2020 21:33:10 GMT
May I venture a guess that you read this in the original hardcover T. V. Boardman edition? If so, you are a most fortunate man. No, the first time I read it it was the 70s Ace edition. I am, of course, nevertheless a most fortunate man. Ooh!! Sorry to hear you didn't read it in the original hardcover edition. (The Ace Double, being the original paperback edition, and as such also the overall original edition, as cromagnonman correctly points out, entangled with R. E. Howard on the back, I wouldn't have been so exited about). The 70s Ace edition is a pretty sorry nondescript affair too. But I am sure you have been compensated in other ways down the infinite paths of life!
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Post by Knygathin on May 29, 2020 21:45:08 GMT
To be even more picky, I have the very first, absolute original edition, but under different, and even original title, Sea-Kings of Mars, in the 1949 June issue of Thrilling Wonder Stories! On glorious pdf!
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Post by helrunar on Jun 28, 2022 14:50:38 GMT
A friend loaned me his copy of this book. I finally was able to read "The Return of Hastur" by Derleth which to me is a camp classic--I am not sure others in the Vault would have much to say about it. I had great fun with it. And yes, I now have a copy of Derleth's infamous Mask of Cthulhu on order.
Editor Robert M. Price's introductory note to Karl Edward Wagner's evocatively titled "The River of Night's Dreaming" cites Foucault and Derrida and earnestly enjoins us to bear in mind that what we are about to read is LITERATURE. LOL. Upon perusal, the tale turns out to be a rather neatly contrived exercise in kinky lesbian erotica with a Neo-Victorian setting and wardrobe details (lots about corsets, lacings and stockings), all to supply a heavy emphasis on bondage and discipline. I don't know much about Wagner's work so this was not really what I was expecting. I did like the ending.
I'm now reading Blish's "More Light" which includes his version of the play, The King in Yellow, evidently poached first by Lin Carter and then, additionally, by Price himself in the finale to this odd volume. The Blish story is rather more my flagon of mead.
I'd never heard that Derleth originally wanted to call Lovecraft's not-really-a-pantheon "the Hastur Mythos" and I have to admit that Price's knowledge of the history of these writers and the ideas they exchanged amongst one another is quite interesting.
H.
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Post by andydecker on Jun 28, 2022 20:03:07 GMT
A friend loaned me his copy of this book. I finally was able to read "The Return of Hastur" by Derleth which to me is a camp classic--I am not sure others in the Vault would have much to say about it. I had great fun with it. And yes, I now have a copy of Derleth's infamous Mask of Cthulhu on order. I'd never heard that Derleth originally wanted to call Lovecraft's not-really-a-pantheon "the Hastur Mythos" and I have to admit that Price's knowledge of the history of these writers and the ideas they exchanged amongst one another is quite interesting. H.
The Return of Hastur is one of those Derleth stories I really, really don't like. It is a blueprint for every bad pastiche which followed, and Derleth didn't only dumb down the ideas of his mentor, he did a 180 on them. He transformed the deities into Godzilla vs King Kong. This story is all over the place. So we have Hastur - suddenly this supposed Space Thing flying around somewhere between Andromeda and M-87 - needing as host some nerd from New England. How the mighty has fallen. And all of this will be thwarted with blowing up some property. Not forget that all those frightened academics can determine and prove this without getting out of the house - some source study in dubious translations is apparently all you need. It is so dumb.
And it is still better than Lin Carter's truly dire play.
Of course Price pointedly ignores the difference between Lovecraft and Derleth in his introduction. Still one has to acknowldge that the early Chaosium books collect some important stories in one volume. Here you find Bierce, Chambers and Lovecraft in one book.
Lovecraft's Whisperer in Darkness is a love/hate thing for me. The connection to Hastur is tennous at best. It is a painful naive tale, nobody behaves as any sane individual would do. But the last part is wonderful, and it has some of Lovecraft's strongest writing.
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