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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on May 24, 2021 10:36:52 GMT
Hi Darrell.
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on May 24, 2021 10:38:26 GMT
I know nothing about The Fall, but I'm sure I'd recognise some of their songs. What should I try first?
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Post by dem bones on May 24, 2021 13:19:22 GMT
I know nothing about The Fall, but I'm sure I'd recognise some of their songs. What should I try first? It's such a huge body of work spanning four plus decades so, rather than a particular album, if you've an hour to spare, you might like to try this ace documentary (featuring a goodly number of their *ahem" hits) The Wonderful and Frightening World of Mark E Smith
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Post by šrincess šµuvstarr on May 24, 2021 13:33:26 GMT
I know nothing about The Fall, but I'm sure I'd recognise some of their songs. What should I try first? It's such a huge body of work spanning four plus decades so, rather than a particular album, you might like to spare, you might like to try this ace documentary (featuring a goodly umber of their *ahem" hits) The Wonderful and Frightening World of Mark E SmithThank you.
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Post by darrell on May 24, 2021 16:51:55 GMT
I know nothing about The Fall, but I'm sure I'd recognise some of their songs. What should I try first? Worth trying some of the horror-themed tracks to begin with - 'Impression of J. Temperance' is almost a short story set to music. The 'draGnet' LP contains the likes of 'A Figure Walks' and the M.R.James namechecking Lovecraftian terror of 'Spectre vs. Rector'. Working out what the songs might be about is all part of the attraction - I'm convinced that my favourite Fall track, 'Garden', is about the Second Coming, but others have offered a range of interpretations.
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Post by darrell on May 24, 2021 16:57:34 GMT
Behind that deliberately obfuscatory alias, who can this so-called "Darrell" really be, I wonder? I think it's the real Pierce Nace. Come to reveal all about the giant praying mantis book. I've been talking recently about attempting to write a short story bringing Pierce's mantises over to England, for one of my upcoming anthology projects. So you could be right!
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Post by dem bones on May 24, 2021 18:25:57 GMT
I know nothing about The Fall, but I'm sure I'd recognise some of their songs. What should I try first? Worth trying some of the horror-themed tracks to begin with - 'Impression of J. Temperance' is almost a short story set to music. The 'draGnet' LP contains the likes of 'A Figure Walks' and the M.R.James namechecking Lovecraftian terror of 'Spectre vs. Rector'. Working out what the songs might be about is all part of the attraction - I'm convinced that my favourite Fall track, 'Garden', is about the Second Coming, but others have offered a range of interpretations. Another of the folk horrors, Hard Life in the Country, came to mind while reading Sam's Gentry in the Country in the 4th BHF Book of Horror.
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Post by pulphack on May 25, 2021 15:19:51 GMT
Hello Darrell... I suspect that MES is still partially alive and stalking the nether reaches of Manchester. I recall you telling me years ago that his doctor had given him a year unless he gave up drinking - and that was before the millennium. He is of the stuff that does not die, just... transmutes...
On another note, friend-of-a-friend Darren left the Nightingales to join the Fall, wary at the pitfalls of being asked to join your favourite band. He lasted a while, and loved it, yet found the amp-fiddling antics of MES a cause for anxiety. Apparently, after what I heard was a broken leg (but may have been something else, legends being what they were), MES did at least one gig from the dressing room via a radio mic (or very long lead) as getting on stage was a step too far that night.
My God, I miss the old bugger...
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Post by helrunar on May 25, 2021 15:24:53 GMT
Maybe I'm already misremembering, but I could swear I read on an online article this morning that Mr Smith recorded a couple of albums from a wheelchair in his last couple of years of life.
From watching some of the documentary Dem posted, I can't say I "liked" the work of the Fall that was shared in that space, but I couldn't help being in awe of Mr Smith's energy and his refusal to lie down and be quiet. Ever. Probably often a slow-quick trot through Hell working with him but I'm sure there were moments that was scorchingly, exaltingly fierce and fine.
Rage, rage against the darkness...
H.
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Post by valdemar on Jun 22, 2021 3:46:35 GMT
The late, great John Peel loved The Fall. His all time favourite band, in fact. He once said words to the effect of that if The Fall released an album he didn't like, it would be a failing on his part, and not the band's. A good starting point for the New Fall Fan (sorry,I wrote that as if it were the title of a Fall track), would be the only compilation M.E.S. approved of: '50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong'. Tracks in chron.order. Copious notes. For the record, my favourite Fall release, is the 10" mini lp, 'Slates',which contains the superb track, 'Prole Art Threat'. Tidy.
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Post by pulphack on Jun 22, 2021 5:04:59 GMT
Valdemar! Good to see you back. Where have you been? (Not that I've been very evident either, perhaps to the relief of the board). I can only endorse that selection for a Fall starting point. It is a very representative comp, which I picked up years ago to save some battered viny getting more so. And 'Slates' is still my personal Fall fave, even though I think there are possibly better and harder Fall albums not long after. It's summer '81 for me, and so proves Noel Coward's dictum of the potency of cheap music, I suppose.
Steve, it's not even about 'liking' The Fall - there have been times when I've found even the records I liked unlistenable, but still you come back as it's the fact that the music and words are so unique - it's the dark charisma of the Prestwich bard MES (a description at which he would probably sneer into his pint)and the look into a unique mind that draw me back.
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Post by valdemar on Aug 2, 2021 3:28:18 GMT
Thank you! I've been trying to avoid the internet - I got so fed up of all the pettiness, stupidity, and bastardy, 'Brexit', and latterly Covid-19, I encountered every day, that it made me want to give up. That, and the pile of books weeping to be read. A huge stash of kits waiting to be made, and every Doctor Who DVD waiting to be watched agaim or anew. So I've been here only fleetingly.
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Post by helrunar on Sept 4, 2022 15:08:21 GMT
I saw a post elsewhere today about the publication of Mark E. Smith's unfilmed screenplay, The Otherwise, which has come out now. I've heard it's excellent.
H.
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