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Post by andydecker on Nov 1, 2023 13:10:13 GMT
Teach me not to read back through my own drivel. Will have to hunt through the PF's as, from the listing I've got #5 as Cyril Donson's equally ridiculous Draco The Dragon Man as #5; so maybe we settled on that as it was published between Plastic Man and Orgy of Bubastis. Ah, cool. I didn’t know the publishing order. Similarly, not yet found a Guy N Smith publishing order. Everyone I’ve found lists them in categories… crabs, sabat etc.
Did you look here ? You can choose how to order something. But never neglect the single title entries, much hidden information. And the search is very sensitive. One space too many or a missing . and you get nothing. |
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Post by dem on Nov 1, 2023 13:42:23 GMT
Here's the listing from the Pulp Fair booklet. As mentioned, I think it's by David Whitehead who conducted the accompanying interview. We hope he'll not mind us quoting it here. Steve Holland [ed] - The First UK Paperback & Pulp Bookfair Official Souvenir Booklet (Zeon, 7. Sept 1991) |
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Post by sadako on Nov 1, 2023 13:53:12 GMT
Ah, cool. I didn’t know the publishing order. Similarly, not yet found a Guy N Smith publishing order. Everyone I’ve found lists them in categories… crabs, sabat etc.
Did you look here ? You can choose how to order something. But never neglect the single title entries, much hidden information. And the search is very sensitive. One space too many or a missing . and you get nothing. Oh, I use ISDB constantly, but, didn’t see the ‘Chronological’ function in action before. Thank you, I usually access this site on a mobile, so I’ve missed it till now. |
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Post by sadako on Nov 1, 2023 13:55:11 GMT
Here's the listing from the Pulp Fair booklet. As mentioned, I think it's by David Whitehead who conducted the accompanying interview. We hope he'll not mind us quoting it here. Steve Holland [ed] - The First UK Paperback & Pulp Bookfair Official Souvenir Booklet (Zeon, 7. Sept 1991) Crumbs. Surprised that Guy didn’t crack the US market. Ahead of his time? |
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Post by andydecker on Nov 1, 2023 14:37:17 GMT
Oh, I use ISDB constantly, but, didn’t see the ‘Chronological’ function in action before. Thank you, I usually access this site on a mobile, so I’ve missed it till now. Yeah, with a mobile it is really cluttered. When eating out I ususually use a Fire to read but as it can't connect I check things sometimes on my basic mobile. With the ISBD this is not comfortable. Surprised that Guy didn’t crack the US market. Ahead of his time? No. At the time there was no 'market' for horror. It was just bits and pieces in both countries and just developing. Also the US didn't need foreign writers, they had enough, why spend money for Brits? Before the success of the paperback as a market category Dennis Wheatley for instance didn't have a foreign edition in the US between the later 40s and the 70s. Without the Ellery Queens a lot of British crime novelists of the time never would have been published in the US. |
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Post by andydecker on Nov 1, 2023 14:45:15 GMT
Sleeping Beauty, London: New English Library, Sep 1975 The Slime Beast, London: New English Library, Oct 1975 A Disney fable before The Slime Beast never fails to crack me up. From Pluto to Mercury. Someone ever read his Disney novelisations? |
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Post by sadako on Nov 1, 2023 14:58:31 GMT
Sleeping Beauty, London: New English Library, Sep 1975 The Slime Beast, London: New English Library, Oct 1975 A Disney fable before The Slime Beast never fails to crack me up. From Pluto to Mercury. Someone ever read his Disney novelisations? I’ve got them (four?). Suppose I should read at least one! |
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Post by helrunar on Nov 1, 2023 18:08:01 GMT
Andreas wrote:
Also the US didn't need foreign writers, they had enough, why spend money for Brits? Before the success of the paperback as a market category Dennis Wheatley for instance didn't have a foreign edition in the US between the later 40s and the 70s. Without the Ellery Queens a lot of British crime novelists of the time never would have been published in the US.
There was a fairly popular Ballantine paperback reprint series of various Wheatley novels in the early 70s--maybe some of these started in the mid to late 60s but I don't know.
I had never heard of Guy N. Smith until I started reading the Vault a few years back. He's known here in the US only to specialist collectors. And his books when found are pricey. Out of curiosity I searched The Sucking Pit a few days ago. There was one UK vendor selling a paperback of it for around 35 quid. The US vendor editions started around $130. For old paperbacks.
Hel.
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Post by sadako on Nov 1, 2023 22:24:32 GMT
Andreas wrote: Also the US didn't need foreign writers, they had enough, why spend money for Brits? Before the success of the paperback as a market category Dennis Wheatley for instance didn't have a foreign edition in the US between the later 40s and the 70s. Without the Ellery Queens a lot of British crime novelists of the time never would have been published in the US.There was a fairly popular Ballantine paperback reprint series of various Wheatley novels in the early 70s--maybe some of these started in the mid to late 60s but I don't know. I had never heard of Guy N. Smith until I started reading the Vault a few years back. He's known here in the US only to specialist collectors. And his books when found are pricey. Out of curiosity I searched The Sucking Pit a few days ago. There was one UK vendor selling a paperback of it for around 35 quid. The US vendor editions started around $130. For old paperbacks. Hel. Guy Smith was the second horror star of New English Library, beaten into print by James Herbert’s The Rats. Was Herbert better known in the US? |
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Post by helrunar on Nov 2, 2023 4:03:58 GMT
It would seem James Herbert was quite well known here; his entry in a popular online encyclopedia includes gushing blurbs from Stephen King and some NY Times critic.
I don't read this kind of thing and I had never really paid any attention to him so I'm not a good person to comment on just how popular he was. I did read in the above-referenced entry that the initial UK printing of The Rats sold out in three weeks, which is impressive. If he was able to sell film rights over here, that would have resulted in genuine wealth, I would think. His books over here came out in Signet paperback editions. They were a big firm at the time--lots of placement in drugstore paperback racks and bus stations, etc.
cheers, Hel.
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