Truegho
Devils Coach Horse
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Post by Truegho on Jun 5, 2014 0:41:21 GMT
I am not normally a western movie fan, but I have to say that Clint's spaghetti westerns really excited me. I especially love the haunting, catchy musical score by Enrico Morricone, especially in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.
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Post by Mike Brough on Jun 6, 2014 17:29:38 GMT
It's strange. In my 20s and 30s, I'd have agreed with you. Mean and moody Spaghetti was my thing. Clint, Lee, even Mr Fonda.
But, over the past few years, I've re-established a love for classic westerns, especially those of Big John (The Searchers, The Shootist, True Grit are particular favourites).
There's something elegiac about them.
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Post by ramseycampbell on Jun 18, 2014 13:11:25 GMT
I do think the roots of the Leone films are as much in Anthony Mann and especially Boetticher as in Kurosawa.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Jun 18, 2014 14:22:54 GMT
I do think the roots of the Leone films are as much in Anthony Mann and especially Boetticher as in Kurosawa. No. |
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Post by ramseycampbell on Jun 25, 2014 21:08:11 GMT
I do think the roots of the Leone films are as much in Anthony Mann and especially Boetticher as in Kurosawa. No. Sorry, you're saying I don't think it? Or you'd like to take time to develop your argument? |
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Post by cauldronbrewer on Jun 26, 2014 17:05:42 GMT
Speaking of spaghetti westerns, Eli Wallach--who was magnificent as Tuco in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly--passed away yesterday.
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Post by ramseycampbell on Jun 26, 2014 20:32:30 GMT
Speaking of spaghetti westerns, Eli Wallach--who was magnificent as Tuco in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly--passed away yesterday. Alas, so he did. |
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Post by redbrain on Jun 27, 2014 11:46:59 GMT
Speaking of spaghetti westerns, Eli Wallach--who was magnificent as Tuco in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly--passed away yesterday. Indeed. His passing seems to have received less attention than he deserved. But, I suppose, attention isn't much use to him any more. I always assumed that he was supposed to be the Ugly, although (in point of fact) he wasn't ugly. I also assumed that Clint Eastwood's character was intended to be The Good, although he was no real example of moral rectitude. Lee Van Cleef's character was a highly satisfactory Bad. Actually, Lee Van Cleef was the one I found myself rooting for. |
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Post by Craig Herbertson on Jun 27, 2014 21:04:39 GMT
Tuco in The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - simply brilliant
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Post by ripper on Jun 28, 2014 19:37:47 GMT
sad news about Eli Wallach. I like the Dollars trilogy, For a few Dollars More being my favourite.
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Post by Dr Terror on Jun 30, 2014 11:55:27 GMT
Actually, Lee Van Cleef was the one I found myself rooting for. Me too! |
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Post by ripper on Jun 30, 2014 16:52:05 GMT
Van Cleef was very good in his two "Dollars" appearances. I'm not a huge fan of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly--I find it a bit too long and much prefer For a Few Dollars More. There's also something about that wah-wah theme tune that just curls my toes. Perversely, a film that often gets panned that I really like is The Magnificent Seven Ride! with Van Cleef playing the Brynner part of Chris, again going up against those pesky Mexican bandidos, this time with the help of a group of prisoners, with gorgeous Stefanie Powers as his love interest (after his wife is murdered early on).
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Post by mattofthespurs on Jun 30, 2014 19:34:44 GMT
I'm not a huge fan of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly--I find it a bit too long and much prefer For a Few Dollars More. There's also something about that wah-wah theme tune that just curls my toes. Heretic! Burn him! BURN HIM! |
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Post by redbrain on Jun 30, 2014 23:09:11 GMT
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly was the first Spaghetti Western I saw, and the first western of any kind that I can recall seeing in the cinema. (Though I was surely taken to see at least one western when I was little. In fact, I must have seen several at Saturday morning pictures.)
I recall that in my English O Level exam, I wrote an essay on 'why I like (or dislike) westerns', and chose to write about why I disliked them. At that stage, I thought of westerns as television series like The Lone Ranger and The Range Rider. The latter, I recall, had a sidekick called Dick West, all American boy. I wondered about 'all American boy', as though there might be a little bit of him (a big toe, maybe) that wasn't American.
So, when some friends invited me to join them in watching The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, I said: 'No, I don't like westerns'. A girl (I can't now remember who she was) said: 'but it's a spaghetti western'. That meant nothing much to me, but I went, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. After that, I took to watching spaghetti westerns when they appeared at local cinemas. I don't think I ever enjoyed another as much as I did The Good, the Bad and the Ugly -- but that was the one that took my spaghetti western virginity. *sigh*
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Post by ripper on Jul 1, 2014 11:28:05 GMT
Matt: lol I think I am probably in a rather small minority when it comes to not particularly liking The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. I do like some parts but overall I find it too rambling.
Redbrain: The closest I got to seeing a spag western on the big screen was around 1972 in a cinema on the Isle of Wight. My parents took me to a re-run of Zulu, but there was a power failure halfway through due to a thunderstorm. We got free tickets but the next day the programme changed and A Fistful of Dollars was on in place of Zulu. It was a AA certificate, and even though I begged and pleaded my parents wouldn't take me as I was only around 10 :-(. By the time I could go by myself, westerns were rather sparse at the cinema.
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