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Post by Knygathin on Sept 29, 2023 7:36:20 GMT
Damien: Omen II immediately starts with incredibly groovy music. Must see if I can find some more of that good stuff, whoever made it! Jerry Goldsmith. And DAMIEN: OMEN II is a masterpiece. Thank you. We shall see. I'm going to watch all three movies. I saw the first two in my teens, and remember them as being very scary, too grim to be enjoyable. (Not sure I have seen all of the third with Sam Neill.) I dragged along my unknowing little brother, who was very sensitive, and superstitious, to the theatre to see Omen II: Damien. He seems to have been permanently traumatized - and never forgave me for that. Whenever we had a tousled argument, to gain advantage he would accuse me of being Damien. He has outgrown that, but I am wise to still not remind him of the Omen films. |
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Post by andydecker on Sept 29, 2023 8:44:22 GMT
Damien: Omen II immediately starts with incredibly groovy music. Must see if I can find some more of that good stuff, whoever made it! Jerry Goldsmith. And DAMIEN: OMEN II is a masterpiece. Your'e kidding, right? |
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 29, 2023 9:28:04 GMT
Jerry Goldsmith. And DAMIEN: OMEN II is a masterpiece. Your'e kidding, right? No. |
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Post by andydecker on Sept 29, 2023 17:56:39 GMT
To each his own, but when I think of this movie words like dull, badly melodramatic, tv movie cinematography or boring come to mind, but surely not masterpiece.
Well, I guess it is better than Part 3, which is a trainwreck, but that is no recommendation.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 29, 2023 19:06:34 GMT
To each his own, but when I think of this movie words like dull, badly melodramatic, tv movie cinematography or boring come to mind, but surely not masterpiece.
Well, I guess it is better than Part 3, which is a trainwreck, but that is no recommendation.
I think what you call "badly melodramatic" is part---but only part---of what I enjoy about it. It is a completely over-the-top coming-of-age story. You think you had problems as a teenager? Damien has to come to terms with realizing he is the Antichrist, and his mother is the Whore of Babylon! The wonderful Goldsmith music has already been mentioned. It also has one of the most memorable death scenes ever, the one involving a frozen lake. |
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Post by andydecker on Sept 29, 2023 20:04:33 GMT
]I think what you call "badly melodramatic" is part---but only part---of what I enjoy about it. It is a completely over-the-top coming-of-age story. You think you had problems as a teenager? Damien has to come to terms with realizing he is the Antichrist, and his mother is the Whore of Babylon! The wonderful Goldsmith music has already been mentioned. It also has one of the most memorable death scenes ever, the one involving a frozen lake. I saw it long ago, but I seem to remember a lackluster Robert Foxworth which I used to like as an actor and a scene where Damian is at some pond and is whining "why me!" which reminded me of a Saturday Night Live sketch.
Of the music I have sadly no recollection at all.
Exactly, he is the Antichrist and his mother is the Whore of Babylon or at least a jackal - and what is the movie (or the next one) doing with this material? Absolutly nothing worthwhile. Cruel Intentions with Sarah Michelle Gellar had more evil bastards doing nasty things to other people than that supposed horror movie.
Recently I watched the remake of Omen I which had some inspired casting. What a disappointment. Absolutely pointless waste of budget.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Sept 30, 2023 19:04:02 GMT
I watched TALK TO ME, the recent Australian* sensation about teenagers interacting with spirits by means of a severed hand. The basic premise, and the initial handling of it, is wonderful, but then it works its way to an ending I should have seen coming but did not, because by that point I had lost interest. I recommend the first half unreservedly, though!
*Depending on how good your Strine is, you may have to turn on subtitles.
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 8:55:08 GMT
Edit: Content removed because of upset reactions to my opinions and observations. It was not meant on a personal level or to offend anyone on the forum. Furthermore, I have nothing personal against Jews. I have friends among Jews. I also think it is kind of strange, how you guys like to read of all kinds of chocking situations and outrage in literature, but when I point out a bizarre and provocative coincidence from real life you don't want to hear of it.
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Post by samdawson on Oct 2, 2023 11:48:30 GMT
"...it is quite interesting to see the background of those involved with making this film. They are all jews. The group who deny Christ as the Saviour. Director: Jewish Writer: Jewish Producer: Jewish Music composer: Jewish Production company: Jewish Distributor: Jewish" Personal opinion: I don't feel that these kind of sentiments have a place on this board. |
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 12:25:20 GMT
Personal opinion: I don't feel that these kind of sentiments have a place on this board. I understand your automatic reaction. I realize the deeply ingrained tabu. But they are not sentiments, they are simply observations of the ethnic and religious origins of this film. It should be ok, like we can talk about Japanese or Chinese films, or any other culture. |
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Post by samdawson on Oct 2, 2023 13:40:27 GMT
Personal opinion: I don't feel that these kind of sentiments have a place on this board. I understand your automatic reaction. I realize the deeply ingrained tabu. But they are not sentiments, they are simply observations of the ethnic and religious origins of this film. It should be ok, like we can talk about Japanese or Chinese films, or any other culture. They are very much sentiments, and distasteful ones. You talk about an "immoral" "sacrifice" of a child's innocence, presumably for pure commercial reasons, then deliberately identify those involved as Jewish and deniers of Christ. You really couldn't make it much plainer what you're trying to say. |
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Post by dem on Oct 2, 2023 13:58:21 GMT
Personal opinion: I don't feel that these kind of sentiments have a place on this board. They don't. |
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Post by samdawson on Oct 2, 2023 14:02:02 GMT
Personal opinion: I don't feel that these kind of sentiments have a place on this board. They don't. Good on you, Dem |
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Post by Swampirella on Oct 2, 2023 14:07:40 GMT
Yes, thank you Dem, and Sam.
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 14:10:57 GMT
They are very much sentiments, and distasteful ones. You talk about an "immoral" "sacrifice" of a child's innocence, presumably for pure commercial reasons, then deliberately identify those involved as Jewish and deniers of Christ. You really couldn't make it much plainer what you're trying to say. My thoughts about using the child actor to portray Antichrist are my sentiments. The rest are my opinions and observations. If reality proves uncomfortable, should we then simply shut our eyes? |
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