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Post by Middoth on Nov 14, 2021 19:42:50 GMT
Weirdmonger don't you think Joyce Carol Oates is more Aickman than Aickman?
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Post by PeterC on Nov 14, 2021 22:35:06 GMT
Sorry to butt in like this but JCO is poor stuff compared to Mr Aickman; she’s not in the same league.
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Post by Middoth on Nov 14, 2021 22:44:12 GMT
It's not about leagues, degrees, places in the hit parade, ratings and box office, but about the fact that it causes similar sensations.
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Post by PeterC on Nov 15, 2021 0:20:05 GMT
I never mentioned any of those things but as JCO is not of the same literary stature as Aickman, I don’t see how she can be ‘more’ than him.
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 15, 2021 8:17:12 GMT
Weirdmonger don't you think Joyce Carol Oates is more Aickman than Aickman? Never considered that before! I’ve not read enough Oates to judge, but I do like her work. * Elizabeth Bowen and Aickman had mutual friends, they are definitely kindred writers, and Aickman praised her in a Fontana Ghosts intro, and I suspect they had at least a fling! But that is just gossip! |
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 15, 2021 8:17:51 GMT
It appears that nobody has noticed before that Aickman is one stroke short of Pickman, and they both had Models!
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Post by 𝒫rincess 𝓉uvstarr on Nov 15, 2021 12:10:07 GMT
I never mentioned any of those things but as JCO is not of the same literary stature as Aickman, I don’t see how she can be ‘more’ than him. Until I came on this site I'd never heard of Robert Aickman, Joyce Carol Oates I knew of as one of America's most famous living authors. I think it can be hard to break out of certain genres and gain a literary reputation, ghost and horror being examples. Science fiction is considered beyond the pale, which is odd as many of the so-called serious writers are doing it, mostly dystopian fiction, but they won't admit it. They disguise it by claiming it to be social commentary on our times. Oates is hugely prolific, she has written over a hundred books. I'd be amazed if she can keep up a level of quality at that rate. |
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 22, 2021 10:29:13 GMT
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 22, 2021 16:02:12 GMT
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 24, 2021 20:19:47 GMT
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Post by PeterC on Nov 25, 2021 9:47:05 GMT
This is fascinating, Weirdmonger. You have now brought us three stories by the marvellous Elizabeth Bowen that don't appear in the 'Collected Stories'.
Home for Christmas
Just Imagine
Human Habitation
The first two are included in The Bazaaar and Other Stories, edited by Allan Hepburn, Edinburgh University Press, 2008. This volume also includes The Claimant.
I'm not sure about Human Habitation.
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 26, 2021 6:38:52 GMT
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Post by weirdmonger on Nov 26, 2021 6:49:25 GMT
This is fascinating, Weirdmonger. You have now brought us three stories by the marvellous Elizabeth Bowen that don't appear in the 'Collected Stories'. Home for Christmas Just Imagine Human Habitation The first two are included in The Bazaaar and Other Stories, edited by Allan Hepburn, Edinburgh University Press, 2008. This volume also includes The Claimant. I'm not sure about Human Habitation. HUMAN HABITATION is in the easily obtainable EB Collected Stories, as are most of her most Aickmanesque stories listed here: dflewisreviews.wordpress.com/2021/11/23/wake-the-elbow/ |
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Post by 𝒫rincess 𝓉uvstarr on Nov 26, 2021 13:34:19 GMT
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Post by weirdmonger on Dec 18, 2021 16:59:06 GMT
“She felt it must be very late, past midnight: that point where the river of night flows underneath time, that point at which occurs the mysterious birth of tomorrow.” — Elizabeth Bowen
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