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Post by Steve on Apr 16, 2010 12:56:23 GMT
Brilliant! Did Jones do the covers for all the Lancers? I believe Curt has scans of all of them at Groovy Age. They're more what I'd describe as fantasy-style covers than horror as such Just checked The Groovy Age (I could happily spend hours there) and it was the Berkley Medallion numbered Guardians books that I was thinking of with the Jones covers. Beautiful, and interesting to see that despite numerous references on the covers to 'Black Magic', 'Occult Evil', 'Devil Worship', 'Voodoo', 'Demonic Possession', 'Diabolical Cults' and the Undead, the Guardians titles were billed as 'fantasy adventure'. I suppose Fantasy as we think of it today with evil sorcerors, muscular heroes and scantily clad women was just coming into its own in the late 60s while horror was still in a bit of a lull between the golden age of the monster movie & the early Hammers and the Devil really having his day in the 70s with The Exorcist and what have you. Looking at those covers though I was wondering if we've got a gallery with all the different Saxon covers together (I couldn't see one just looking through the various threads here)?
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Post by severance on Apr 16, 2010 14:14:47 GMT
Saxon Hoard - that's inspired - thanks to the good doctor for that. ...I was wondering if we've got a gallery with all the different Saxon covers together (I couldn't see one just looking through the various threads here)? I've just added a couple of thumbnails to the opening post - not really a gallery as such, but it's a...something
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Post by killercrab on Apr 17, 2010 0:02:37 GMT
Er... 'The Joy of Saxon'? >> KC
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Post by severance on Apr 18, 2010 17:56:42 GMT
Onto the European editions I'll start with France, only two published as far as I can see. Lâchez les Monstres (The Disorientated Man) - Galliera, Bibliothèque de L'étrange #4 (1972) Les Vampires du Finistère (The Vampires of Finistere) - Galliera, Bibliothèque de L'étrange #9 (1973) Les Vampires du Finistère (The Vampires of Finistere) - Terre de Brume (2007) ItalyL'Aborigeno (The Killing Bone) - Editrice Nord, Arcano #4 (1972) Still working on Germany and Holland...
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Post by dem bones on Apr 26, 2010 13:55:52 GMT
It's probably too late to ask now but I'm wondering if Mr Glut knows whether the previous Dutch (or German, going from the Pulp 2.0 blog) edition of his Brother Blood was published under his own name or a pseudonym? Steve, i did ask him "can you remember if your name was on the cover?" at which point he probably realised he was dealing with an idiot and delegated to his friend Marty Riccardo ("professional hypnotist by day, collector and author of vampire lore by night") who first (?) mentioned this pesky Saxon- Brother Blood-Belmont 1970 edition in his vampire bibliography. Marty writes: "My offhand guess is that it was an error on my part. In rare cases, I obtained information from obscure and unreliable sources, or it could simply have been a major blunder on my part. Don would be the authority regarding a Dutch version of Brother Blood, which I think is very possible. Sorry I can't provide more information.So, maybe we still can't write off the existence of a Belmont '70 edition, but it's looking more and more likely that our quest was the result of a slip up by a stressed-out bibliographer. i've just knocked off The Torturer and Vampire's Moon in double-quick time and will attempt to write something about both for the Saxon Horde thread soon when hopefully i'm not so pushed. Incredibly (for me) i've just completed ten novels on the spin including a fabulous Brian McNaughton double bill, GNS's Death Bell and a rematch with James Herbert's Lair (far better than i remembered it). Didn't take any notes, but will try and make some kind of comment when things get back to "normal" ....
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Post by severance on Apr 30, 2010 23:06:42 GMT
HollandDe Nacht Van De Vampier (Vampire's Moon), 1974 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 3 Kind Van Satan (Satan's Child), 1975 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 5 De Menselijke Robot (The Disorientated Man), 1974 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 6 De Kwelgeest (The Torturer), 1975 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 7 De Vampiers Van Finistere, 1975 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 8 De Nacht Van De Maagd (Darkest Night), 1975 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 9 De Zwarte Engel (Black Honey), 1975 Ridderhof, Horrorserie 10 Germany to follow + a dutch oddity...
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Post by Dr Terror on May 9, 2010 22:33:43 GMT
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Post by severance on Jun 2, 2010 13:20:59 GMT
Not sure what to make of this one De Gele Vechter (The Yellow Fighter) - Ridderhof, K'ing Kung-Fu #8 (1975) Now those with long memories will know that at the old place we had an extensive thread on this Kung Fu series - 7 books in the States, 4 in the U.K. - all credited to Marshall Macao, whoever the hell he is/was. It was ascertained that it wasn't Ron Goulart for a start. So what the hell is this book 8, and why is it credited to Peter Saxon (even though an author credit is missing from the cover)
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Post by Dr Terror on Aug 4, 2011 10:35:04 GMT
I've been asked if I could find out what is the correct chronological order to read the Guardians books? Any ideas?
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Post by andydecker on Aug 4, 2011 11:30:56 GMT
Now that is a good question!
I dont know them well enough for that, but is there really a progression or continuity in them? I had the impression that they put more a different character in each new novel into the foreground than building a continuity.
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Post by dem bones on Aug 4, 2011 13:45:47 GMT
i think we had this one before on vault mk 1 and the consensus then was that, as there's no real beginning or end to the series, they're best read in order of publication though i doubt it will ruin your enjoyment if you just start with whichever one takes your fancy.
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Post by originalrebel on Nov 13, 2011 21:01:45 GMT
Does anyone know if Curse Of Rathlaw was available in a Five Star printing?
If it was where can I get one?
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Post by jamesdoig on Nov 14, 2011 8:01:23 GMT
Reedmore Books if flogging 7 Saxons for 15 quid, though doesn't say which book is which imprint:
SAXON, John:COLLECTION of Eight JOHN SAXON paperbacks : THE HAUNTING OF ALAN MAIS; BLACK HONEY; THE TORTURER; SCREAM AND SCREAM AGAIN; VAMPIRES MOON; THE DARKEST NIGHT; THE CURSE OF RATHLAW ... . Published by Five Star (5), Mayflower (1), Lancer (1), 1968 (2), 1972 (5). Seven standard paperbacks. Condition: average used condition, .no rubbish, no mint ones either. Total packed weight 900g. [Bookseller: Reedmore Books]
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Post by cathaven on Mar 8, 2013 18:50:16 GMT
I've just found that I actually have all 6 of the "Peter Saxon" Guardians novels. Four in Five Star editions, plus the Magnum edition of 'The Curse of Rathlaw' (which appears to be much more common than the five star edition, even in the UK)& the Dennis Wheatley Library of the Occult edition of 'Dark Ways to Death'. Since at least 4 of them were published in 1968 & there's seem to be conflicting opinions as to which numbers they are, does anyone know for sure what the original published order is? I've yet to find a list of them, all numbered from 1 to 6.
Dave Brzeski
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Post by pulphack on Mar 9, 2013 7:07:33 GMT
To be honest, I don't think there is any real order as such. The mss were all prepared at the same time to be sold as a package deal by Press Editorial. I always think it's safe to assume that Dark Ways To Death is the introductory novel, as it seems to spend more time intorducing the characters than the others, and also because it was a rewrite/remodel of a Sexton Blake novel by Wilfred MacNeilly, whereas the others were plotted and planned from scratch. If you've not read about this before, briefly Bill Baker and George Mann at Press Ed devised the format, storylines and some sample text, then farmed them out to writers on their books to complete while they sold the package at book fairs. I think I assume Dark Ways... is first because it has the prvious source material and so was designed to be the first one off the blocks for any interested or contracted parties.
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