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Post by franklinmarsh on Jun 3, 2008 9:56:25 GMT
Edge as a leather boy? Yikes. Isn't that number 17 Vengeance Valley - another one that was reissued as a Masero later. Quite a good novel as I recall. Always grateful to one of the PC crowd for pointing out that the Edge on No 2 Ten Thousand Dollars, American is being played by Gregory Peck.
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Post by killercrab on Jun 3, 2008 15:19:06 GMT
Phillips also contributed a couple of controversial covers to the Pan Horror books, including the 'Critter/Gremlin from the crypt' (#3) and, I think, 'Boozy bat' (#7) >> I'm wondering if W.Francis Phillips also went by the name of Bill Phillips? Look at the similarity of style between these covers - RETURN OF THE WEREWOLF - ( Writer) Guy. N Smith - New English Library April 1977 HOUSE OF HAMMER #18 - (Cover) Bill Phillips - Top sellers Ltd , March 1978 Also ... HOUSE OF HAMMER #20 - (Cover) Bill Phillips - Top Sellers Ltd , May 1978. One and the same don't you think - OR a relation? Sorry to verge off from the central theme here! Ade
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Post by jkdunham on Jun 3, 2008 23:39:15 GMT
I've no idea what the 'W' in W. Francis Phillipps stood for. He might have been Bill.
I see what you mean about the style - with the Kronos cover moreso than the werewolf one - but I don't know.
The Guy N. Smith 'Werewolf' covers had quite slipped my mind. OK, they're not the most terrifying examples of lycanthropy ever to grace a paperback but I still think they're great!
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Post by killercrab on Jun 3, 2008 23:43:22 GMT
Well the connection I was trying to make was that both werewolves are very similar - the claws particularly strike me as by the same hand .. if you'll pardon the pun. *If* both are by Bill Phillips - then New English Library were obviously using him around the same time as the western covers. Two artists called Phillips .. makes you wonder doesn't it?
ade
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Post by jkdunham on Jun 4, 2008 0:28:23 GMT
Well the connection I was trying to make was that both werewolves are very similar - the claws particularly strike me as by the same hand .. *If* both are by Bill Phillips - then New English Library were obviously using him around the same time as the western covers. Don't get me wrong, Ade. I'm not saying they're not the same bloke, just that I don't know. Now that you point it out, I agree that the claws do look very similar. No doubt that W. F. Phillipps did quite a bit of work for NEL and Mews in the seventies, and not just westerns and horror. He did all kinds of stuff. I think his seventies covers have quite a distinctive look to them. His covers for Pan and others in the sixties sometimes look quite different. My favourite of his Pan Horror covers is probably 'rat on skull' (#6) and his cover for Arthur C. Clarke's The Deep Range (Pan, 1970) is a bit of a classic.
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Post by jkdunham on Jun 4, 2008 0:40:22 GMT
Always grateful to one of the PC crowd for pointing out that the Edge on No 2 Ten Thousand Dollars, American is being played by Gregory Peck. What, this one? Well, I thought the idea was that he was supposed to have something of Lee Van Cleef about him, but Gregory Peck as Edge might work I suppose. James Stewart as Adam Steele?
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Post by killercrab on Jun 4, 2008 0:48:57 GMT
Don't get me wrong, Ade. I'm not saying they're not the same bloke, just that I don't know.>>
No worries Steve - I'm just guessing here ! The problem I've got is that the figure work on the HOH covers is pretty good - certainly more assured than those oddly angled western pieces. Then again the HOH covers were done a year later - a bit of practice - a slightly less tight deadline. I understand with Nel that they'd get the covers done sometimes before the books were even written - to give the reps something to sell?
ade
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Post by franklinmarsh on Jun 7, 2008 17:55:50 GMT
Edge used to be Charles Bronson - then he became Cain Dingle from Emmerdale
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Post by franklinmarsh on Jun 7, 2008 17:57:34 GMT
I have to give Tony Masero the benefit of the doubt on this one
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Post by franklinmarsh on Jun 7, 2008 18:00:08 GMT
An incredibly busy Apache cover (which extends to a flotilla of Ken Bulmer style ships on the back), and the lad himself , Herne The Hunter
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Post by pulphack on Jun 7, 2008 18:33:55 GMT
i notice a recurring theme here - dads and uncles and grandads swapping bags of paperbacks. when i was a kid, my uncle worked at the post office, and all the guys down the social club used to read and pass around these kinds of paperbacks. my earliest exposure to this kind of fiction was sorting through piles and bags that he kept in the garage, trading and selling.
does that happen these days? i know we do that sort of thing with old books, but this was guys doing it with new books as a matter of course, not because they had some weird aspergers...
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Post by justin on Jun 7, 2008 18:45:00 GMT
I'm positive the Bill Phillips are all one and the same. Most of his NEL work employed a feathery brush-work and I was possibly strongest on historical fiction. I would imagine that his western work was modelled on Clifton-Dey under the instruction of NEL's art department. As was Tony Masero, who did the Clifton-Dey impression better than most. Ray Feibush also contributed a few less than top-notch Edge covers in the wake of Clifton-Dey's departure.
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Post by pulphack on Jun 7, 2008 18:55:26 GMT
In Paperback Pulps & Comics 3 there's a far too-brief piece on WF Phillips which doesn't say he was also 'Bill' Phillips, but does feature a couple of NEL 70's covers that look very much in the vein we're talking. So I'd reckon Justin's right on this one.
Happy birthday, by the way.
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Post by killercrab on Jun 7, 2008 21:28:30 GMT
The circular EDGE logo is distinctive - but must of been a T.W.A.T. for the artists to work around ...
ade
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Post by franklinmarsh on Jun 11, 2008 17:43:02 GMT
Colin Backhouse with Breed No 2 - The Silent Kill. Breed spells death!
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