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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 14:22:04 GMT
Or maybe you should take all your racist crap elsewhere, as God knows, you've posted enough of it. Ok Dem, it is your board. Since you don't like my postings, I respect your will.
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 14:10:57 GMT
They are very much sentiments, and distasteful ones. You talk about an "immoral" "sacrifice" of a child's innocence, presumably for pure commercial reasons, then deliberately identify those involved as Jewish and deniers of Christ. You really couldn't make it much plainer what you're trying to say. My thoughts about using the child actor to portray Antichrist are my sentiments. The rest are my opinions and observations. If reality proves uncomfortable, should we then simply shut our eyes?
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 12:25:20 GMT
Personal opinion: I don't feel that these kind of sentiments have a place on this board. I understand your automatic reaction. I realize the deeply ingrained tabu. But they are not sentiments, they are simply observations of the ethnic and religious origins of this film. It should be ok, like we can talk about Japanese or Chinese films, or any other culture.
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 2, 2023 8:55:08 GMT
Edit: Content removed because of upset reactions to my opinions and observations. It was not meant on a personal level or to offend anyone on the forum. Furthermore, I have nothing personal against Jews. I have friends among Jews. I also think it is kind of strange, how you guys like to read of all kinds of chocking situations and outrage in literature, but when I point out a bizarre and provocative coincidence from real life you don't want to hear of it.
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 1, 2023 19:59:25 GMT
I remember reading something by George MacDonald Fraser in which he recounted how he was the historical advisor on a World War II movie, and try as they might, he and the other advisors (who had actually been there in WW II) simply could not get the actors to move, talk, or otherwise behave as soldiers from the 1940s would have. The actors' contemporary mannerisms were simply too baked-in to change. That said, we all know the difference between movies that "ring true" or at least seem to be more historically accurate than others. An effort can be made to at least get details of costume, setting and so forth correct and the actors can at least try to act "non-contemporary." Even if it's impossible for them to know exactly how people in the past did act, it's a safe bet that they acted differently. And this was close in history, only a few decades back. People of Europe and the US spoke and moved quite differently in the first half of the 20th century, compared to now. Imagine then how big the difference must have been 200 - 300 years back in time. That is why I wondered if we would react in chock to actually see it, along with their almost otherworldly cultural attributes. Yes, I believe with imaginitive and calculating conclusions about their culture and behaviour, interesting results are still possible for actors of today to portray. One sure conclusion to start with, is that it must have been quite bizarre in contrast to now. But certain nuances of their behaviors are probably lost, too elusive to be discerned from their old books. And ๓гร. к, I agree, it would have been much much worse for them to look into our time. I would certainly NOT like to look into the future 200 years from now.
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Post by Knygathin on Oct 1, 2023 8:49:55 GMT
I am not a complete stranger to the idea that it would NOT not result in existential horror to meet someone from the 1700s or 1600s, but instead rather be the complete opposite, an overall pleasant and innocent sensation. It is difficult to conjecture either way, and many unforeseen factors may be involved. A mental chock to the nerve centra at taking in the unaccustomed on several levels, is conceivable. Faux pas, certainly. Lovecraft perhaps has some interesting philosophical declarations on the subject in one of his many letters.
Nature would be clean and pastoral, and lovely to stroll in, before industrialisation started in the 1800s, and long before global corporations like McDonald's were allowed to cut down the forests on a grand scale and pollute our seas.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 30, 2023 11:49:25 GMT
Berkeley Square (1933) and The Queen of Spades (1949), perhaps? Both beautiful films. Barry Lyndon (1975)? But anyhow, seeing the GENUINE behaviour of people in the 1800s, 1700s, 1600s, and further back, I think there is great potential for HORROR, if capturing it truly, its subtle and not so subtle difference from our own. The romantic desire to visit the Past, through a time-machine, would likely result in a CHOCK. Or, through a very good book, or film; has any such truly re-captured the past? The safest bet must be in the form of a historic document, i.e. written in the same era it portrays, ... but is still likely to be insufficient in imagery to make us truly see.
I suspect, if we could TRULY look into people's behaviour in the 1700s, 1600s, their ingrained culture, we would be disgusted by their arrogance, and feel contempt with their complete ignorance of things we understand. And be CREEPED out by their clothing, naivety, sybaritic revelling, nonchalant, mindless glee, and rumbling in the gutter. And they would react negatively to us as well, with fear, aggression. An incongrous split would stand between us, a difference that is nightmarish, caused by the gap in time and social evolution. What I am getting at, I guess, is if it would even be possible for Art in our time, for an actor, to TRULY portray those distant times, a window into the past of their EXACT behaviour, in all its bizarre variances and grotesque eccentricities, completely freed from the actor's everyday ordinary behaviour, ... and whether this would fill our minds with HORROR, ... even existential TERROR, like a waking nightmare?
Ironically, we ourselves are also very naive and stupid, although we like to think we live in an enlightened age.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 29, 2023 12:18:19 GMT
"The Child That Went with the Fairies" (1870). About as good as "Laura Silver Bell". Tragedy, dressed in fairy mythology. Overall competent, with imaginative fairy details, and some seeming, to me, out of place. Such as the black evil looking woman; not sure what that was all about.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 29, 2023 7:36:20 GMT
Damien: Omen II immediately starts with incredibly groovy music. Must see if I can find some more of that good stuff, whoever made it! Jerry Goldsmith. And DAMIEN: OMEN II is a masterpiece. Thank you. We shall see. I'm going to watch all three movies. I saw the first two in my teens, and remember them as being very scary, too grim to be enjoyable. (Not sure I have seen all of the third with Sam Neill.) I dragged along my unknowing little brother, who was very sensitive, and superstitious, to the theatre to see Omen II: Damien. He seems to have been permanently traumatized - and never forgave me for that. Whenever we had a tousled argument, to gain advantage he would accuse me of being Damien. He has outgrown that, but I am wise to still not remind him of the Omen films.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 28, 2023 20:18:27 GMT
Damien: Omen II immediately starts with incredibly groovy music. Must see if I can find some more of that good stuff, whoever made it!
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 27, 2023 19:12:24 GMT
The Centaur ... Many pages are devoted to an early explication of what in the late 20th century became known as the Gaia hypothesis, the concept that our planet is a living being with an actively aware consciousness. This was originally formulated by a German philosopher in the 1860s whose work was referenced by Blackwood. He wrote some other books with this as the backdrop after The Centaur. Interesting concept. Everything contains life, even the stones. Are those follow-up books Julius LeVallon and The Bright Messenger?
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 26, 2023 19:01:36 GMT
I remember reading The Centaur some ten years ago and being swept away by it, and thought of it as my bible. I haven't revisited it since, there is always some new curiosity that grabs my interest. But, oh well.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 26, 2023 11:08:32 GMT
J. S. Le Fanu - "Laura Silver Bell" (1871). Not overtly horryfying, but a creepy fairy tale with symbolic implications to real life. Dark and unpleasant. Not sure why Le Fanu used a "giant", but this is still the fairy folk. He may be Pan or the Devil. Concerns the cruel seduction of a young girl. {Spoiler}The resulting offspring seems to be Wilbur Whateley - fully learned the moment he pops out. Rosmary's baby pales in comparison.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 26, 2023 10:43:05 GMT
David Lindsay - The Haunted Woman (1922). Very creepy violin player.
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Post by Knygathin on Sept 26, 2023 0:10:31 GMT
I doubt whether it is really appropriate to categorize Blackwood under supernatural and weird literature. His work strives much more for existential satisfaction. He could perhaps replace Christianity for European readers, and be our spiritual guide towards fulfillment.
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