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Oct 7, 2008 11:52:19 GMT
Post by benedictjjones on Oct 7, 2008 11:52:19 GMT
on what grounds are they appealing? all but one of them pleaded guilty so you'd think theyd just give up and do their time.
edit-meant to say though that just because of the percieved heinousness of the crime you can't stop people appealing. i'm sure people said the same thing when the guildford four started appealing against their convictions...
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Oct 7, 2008 11:57:56 GMT
Post by dem bones on Oct 7, 2008 11:57:56 GMT
I saw this earlier this morning and have been wracking my 'brain' trying to come up with something to add to what Mr. Riley said, but I can't. There's something so despicable about what those bastards did that makes it stand out even above all the senseless knifing we've become accustomed to in the capital. I do hope the magistrate sees sense and informs these scumbags that, after careful consideration, he's realised the original sentence was woefully lenient and he'll be recommending they each receive an additional ten years.
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Oct 7, 2008 13:48:40 GMT
Post by Craig Herbertson on Oct 7, 2008 13:48:40 GMT
Its very tough isn't it. I sort of forced myself to look at the news but it hurt.
I suppose it must be an automatic thing - review boards and so. It makes you ask a lot of unpleasant questions. I think a lot of people are looking for some more absolute standards of justice nowadays because you really can't tell what is going on. On principle I am a against capital punishment but on the other hand it gave a finality to everything - you more or less said that's it - sometimes the innocent got it in the neck but the majority of the time the guilty disappeared to be judged by God or whatever ...and everyone could see the closure as a means to get on with their life.
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Oct 7, 2008 15:37:16 GMT
Post by mattofthespurs on Oct 7, 2008 15:37:16 GMT
I'm not against capital punishment. They pleaded guilty so there would be no errors on this one. Hang them until they are dead, as the saying goes.
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Oct 7, 2008 16:37:33 GMT
Post by haruhisuzumiya on Oct 7, 2008 16:37:33 GMT
I suppose a horror board is the right place for a capital punishment debate, after all taking a human life under any circumstance whatsoever is horrific.
I'm with mr Demonik.
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Jul 5, 2010 12:09:14 GMT
Post by fritzmaitland on Jul 5, 2010 12:09:14 GMT
Apropos of nothing at all, my interest in the Twiglet (shurely Twilight?) saga, specifically the third fillum Eclipse has just increased by 6,000,000 percent on the grounds that Peter Murphy (of the old Excell ads, The Hunger and ...erm...Bauhaus) has blagged a cameo as The Cold One (what, he's a beer?) - coinciding nicely with the release of his latest solo album and a short tour including a night at the Electric Ballroom in Camden Town - advertised as 50% solo material, 50% Bauhaus. Would 100% solo mean no-one would turn up?
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Jul 6, 2010 17:22:36 GMT
Post by dem bones on Jul 6, 2010 17:22:36 GMT
Maybe Pete will brush the mothballs from Mick Karn so they can revive Dali's Car's popular works of which, i'm fairly sure, there were none. Bauhaus performance of Bela Lugosi's Dead at opening of The Hunger, though - now that was inspired. FM, 'specially for you (oh, OK. and pulphack) Legendary Martian Dance frontman Jerry Lamont; Photo: Mick Mercer "These are the people who shroud their lives with black/ people you may talk to/ people you may turn to ice when you utter the word love/ Stand alone on street corners watching girls/ hair in plaits/ men's swept back/ STAND ALONE!" Those were the days of real music.
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Jul 30, 2010 15:06:30 GMT
Post by lemming13 on Jul 30, 2010 15:06:30 GMT
I have almost every band mentioned here in my media library, and a few more besides, and I owned the CD mentioned right at the start till I had to make more space for books and dvds, and sent it to permanent storage in my external hard drive. Mind you, I do have 26.5 GB of music on my pc alone (okay, 26 GB music and .5 GB of old radio shows), so I'm surprised if there's anything at all that I haven't got. Thank you for a wonderful trip into memory, and for reminding me that stuff is in there - Switchblade Symphony are playing even now...
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Dec 23, 2010 8:48:19 GMT
Post by fritzmaitland on Dec 23, 2010 8:48:19 GMT
Apropos of nothing at all, my interest in the Twiglet (shurely Twilight?) saga, specifically the third fillum Eclipse has just increased by 6,000,000 percent on the grounds that Peter Murphy (of the old Excell ads, The Hunger and ...erm...Bauhaus) has blagged a cameo as The Cold One (what, he's a beer?) - coinciding nicely with the release of his latest solo album and a short tour including a night at the Electric Ballroom in Camden Town - advertised as 50% solo material, 50% Bauhaus. Would 100% solo mean no-one would turn up? Finally got to see Twiglet : Ellipse. Murph the Surph is in it for all of 5 seconds! 'Astards! I was so upset I threw on my copy of the wonderful Near Dark - and was startled by the similarities between the two fillums (both feature fangless vamps and both feature a contemporary vampire who fought for the confederacy during the (American) Civil War). Mercifully I've obtained a copy of Tony Scott's style-over-content The Hunger loosely based on Whitley "I'm completely normal, me!" Streiber's novel, so I can enjoy Peter Murphy's rather excellent performance of Bela Lugosi's Dead, plus David Bowie, and Susan Sarandon and Catherine Deneuve...erm...getting to know one another. Huzzah!
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Dec 23, 2010 9:55:54 GMT
Post by David A. Riley on Dec 23, 2010 9:55:54 GMT
The TV series True Blood also features as a main character a vampire, though not fangless, who fought in the American Civil War.
Sounds like a must for American vampires.
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Dec 23, 2010 12:49:47 GMT
Post by andydecker on Dec 23, 2010 12:49:47 GMT
Sounds like a must for American vampires. Either that or being in the Revolutionary War - as in the truly boring Barrett series of P.N.Elrod*. And of course not forget the classics: living at the court of Nero or King Arthur. Stoker is often dismissed as an at best mediocre writer, but compared to some of our contemporaries he sparkled with ideas :-) I watched 20 minutes of Twilight 1 and really felt older than usual. Then I changed the channel to Mythbusters and got me one of Lory´s Dracula novels. Even if the Count never ripped spectaculary inefficient enforcer Cam a new one it was so much better. And a nice fantasy what he would do with these vapid and disgusting kids. And I thought the beautiful and empty people of the godawful Texas Chainsaw Massacre Remake were bad. * Come to think of it, next to Quinn Yarbro P.N.Elrod is one of most boring and bloodless writers of vampire fiction.
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Dec 23, 2010 20:55:26 GMT
Post by jamesdoig on Dec 23, 2010 20:55:26 GMT
Stoker is often dismissed as an at best mediocre writer, but compared to some of our contemporaries he sparkled with ideas :-) I've been flipping through this, and what's clear is that Stoker originally had Drac interact more with the other characters, attending a dinner with them and so on. Stoker had the presence of mind to change all that so the Count is a more a threatening creature in the background, which works much better. I much prefer it when the vampire is a real monster, with the human traits kept to a minimum.
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Dec 24, 2010 10:44:12 GMT
Post by andydecker on Dec 24, 2010 10:44:12 GMT
Stoker had the presence of mind to change all that so the Count is a more a threatening creature in the background, which works much better. I much prefer it when the vampire is a real monster, with the human traits kept to a minimum. Exactly! Which is of course the reason why movies like Bram Stokers Dracula are such a disappointment. Changing the monster to EmoDrac is so wide beside the mark.
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Nov 1, 2014 19:21:48 GMT
Post by franklinmarsh on Nov 1, 2014 19:21:48 GMT
Anyone else catch BBC4's Goth At The BBC? Immaculate start with Siouxsie & The Banshees thundering through Spellbound, then went to heaven with Bela Lugosi's Dead by Bauhaus, all dry ice, lighting from below (but cut short?) - Peter Murphy IS Goth. Things calmed down with some odd choices, but great scenes involving Killing Joke's Love Like Blood and The Sisters Of Mercy (Eldritch/Morrison/Floodland edition) with Lucretia (My Reflection). Nice to see the likes of Specimen, Sex Gang Children and Fields Of The Nephilim too.
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Apr 21, 2015 21:02:18 GMT
Post by valdemar on Apr 21, 2015 21:02:18 GMT
Last I heard of Peter Murphy, he was in trouble after a hit and run incident, possibly a D.U.I. Saying that, I was always very fond of Bauhaus. Saw them playing live in their 80's heyday, and they were excellent. You have to love a band whose first single is a nine and a half minute plus twelve inch single that is a minimalist dub workout, haven't you? The band's solo and side projects [Tones On Tail, David Jay And The Jaywalkers, The Sinister Ducks(with Alan Moore), Daniel Ash,(who now restores classic motorcycles) Peter Murphy] are all fun, with The Sinister Ducks' 'Old Gangsters Never Die',Peter Murphy's 'Indigo Eyes', and Daniel Ash's 'This Love' being highlights for me.
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