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Post by cromagnonman on Apr 25, 2017 9:58:42 GMT
Great suggestions all, thank you. I vaguely remember Kinvig as a not terribly funny comedy but I'll have to revisit it to make sure. Just looked at IMDb and my interest was piqued by Patrick Newell (and not Prunella Gee) so that probably says something about me tbh. Granted Kinvig wasn't that funny, but compared to the precedent of Come Back Mrs Noah it was comedy of Aristophanesean proportions. Referencing Tales of the Gold Monkey summoned up the spectre of Ron Moody who portrayed Bon Chance Louie in the pilot episode, the part played by Roddy McDowell in the series proper. Moody was one of those actors doomed to be remembered for a solitary performance but, I suggest, deserving of greater recognition than that. Does anyone else remember a (very) short-lived thing he did for American tv called Hart of the Yard? It was a detective comedy, fish-out-of-water type of thing of the sort that Ben Miller did so fantastically well on Death In Paradise (and which DIP cannot do half so well without him). Would probably find that it wasn't funny at all now but I remember it tickling my teenage ribs. Mind you I did have very undemanding ribs in those days.
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Post by The Lurker In The Shadows on Apr 25, 2017 10:34:55 GMT
Moody was one of those actors doomed to be remembered for a solitary performance but, I suggest, deserving of greater recognition than that. Does anyone else remember a (very) short-lived thing he did for American tv called Hart of the Yard? It was a detective comedy, fish-out-of-water type of thing of the sort that Ben Miller did so fantastically well on Death In Paradise (and which DIP cannot do half so well without him). Would probably find that it wasn't funny at all now but I remember it tickling my teenage ribs. Mind you I did have very undemanding ribs in those days. I must admit, the performance I most remember Ron moody for wasn't Fagin, but Rothgo in ITV kids' fantasy series Into The Labyrinth. I was also very fond of Hart of the Yard - or Nobody's Perfect as it was titled in the US, retitled over here to avoid clashing with a similarly named series, I believe. Moody was excellent as a sort of combination of Sherlock Holmes and Inspector Clouseau, I recall. Sadly the only complete episodes I can find are in French - titled Cher Inspecteur - but the US title sequence is available here; www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ILtpzXPys
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Post by cromagnonman on Apr 25, 2017 20:08:41 GMT
Moody was one of those actors doomed to be remembered for a solitary performance but, I suggest, deserving of greater recognition than that. Does anyone else remember a (very) short-lived thing he did for American tv called Hart of the Yard? It was a detective comedy, fish-out-of-water type of thing of the sort that Ben Miller did so fantastically well on Death In Paradise (and which DIP cannot do half so well without him). Would probably find that it wasn't funny at all now but I remember it tickling my teenage ribs. Mind you I did have very undemanding ribs in those days. I must admit, the performance I most remember Ron moody for wasn't Fagin, but Rothgo in ITV kids' fantasy series Into The Labyrinth. I was also very fond of Hart of the Yard - or Nobody's Perfect as it was titled in the US, retitled over here to avoid clashing with a similarly named series, I believe. Moody was excellent as a sort of combination of Sherlock Holmes and Inspector Clouseau, I recall. Sadly the only complete episodes I can find are in French - titled Cher Inspecteur - but the US title sequence is available here; www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ILtpzXPysGosh, Into The Labyrinth: had all but forgotten that. Wasn't that ITV's rip off of the Key to Time series of Dr Who written by a whole raft of ex- Who writers?
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Post by The Lurker In The Shadows on Apr 26, 2017 9:13:09 GMT
Gosh, Into The Labyrinth: had all but forgotten that. Wasn't that ITV's rip off of the Key to Time series of Dr Who written by a whole raft of ex- Who writers? Ha! I hadn't thought of it in terms of The Key to Time, but that's about it. A quest through time and space (or whatever space was available in a studio decked out as a cave system) to prevent a source of immense power from falling into the evil clutches of a ruthless villain - in this case, not Valentine Dyall's Black Guardian but Pamela Salem as the bewitching Belor. I was a big fan as a kid, particularly of Moddy's... er... moody sorcerer and the various guises he adopted in the different time zones - in particular a Sherlock Holmes-style detective in an episode by Robert Holmes - and was sorry that he wasn't in the third and final series.
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Post by cromagnonman on Apr 26, 2017 11:06:30 GMT
Gosh, Into The Labyrinth: had all but forgotten that. Wasn't that ITV's rip off of the Key to Time series of Dr Who written by a whole raft of ex- Who writers? Ha! I hadn't thought of it in terms of The Key to Time, but that's about it. A quest through time and space (or whatever space was available in a studio decked out as a cave system) to prevent a source of immense power from falling into the evil clutches of a ruthless villain - in this case, not Valentine Dyall's Black Guardian but Pamela Salem as the bewitching Belor. I was a big fan as a kid, particularly of Moddy's... er... moody sorcerer and the various guises he adopted in the different time zones - in particular a Sherlock Holmes-style detective in an episode by Robert Holmes - and was sorry that he wasn't in the third and final series. Even the things they were looking for were disguised, weren't they, just like the Key segments? Say what you like about Into The Labyrinth but it was very enviromentally friendly: heavy on recycling. Whatever happened to Pamela Salem eh? She was a regular fixture of episodic tv once. I know she seared herself into my memory from the moment she contributed a very revealing cameo to an early episode of The Professionals. You just don't forget the women you see in fur coats and fishnets when you're twelve or thereabouts. Ever. And, of course, she was Moneypenny in Never Say Never Again in which Prunella " Kinvig" Gee also appeared and who made her own contribution to timeless JB exchanges: "Ah Mr Bond, I believe I'm having you in half an hour" "Och schplendid, your room or mine?"
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Post by Michael Connolly on Apr 26, 2017 11:58:45 GMT
Ha! I hadn't thought of it in terms of The Key to Time, but that's about it. A quest through time and space (or whatever space was available in a studio decked out as a cave system) to prevent a source of immense power from falling into the evil clutches of a ruthless villain - in this case, not Valentine Dyall's Black Guardian but Pamela Salem as the bewitching Belor. I was a big fan as a kid, particularly of Moddy's... er... moody sorcerer and the various guises he adopted in the different time zones - in particular a Sherlock Holmes-style detective in an episode by Robert Holmes - and was sorry that he wasn't in the third and final series. Even the things they were looking for were disguised, weren't they, just like the Key segments? Say what you like about Into The Labyrinth but it was very enviromentally friendly: heavy on recycling. Whatever happened to Pamela Salem eh? She was a regular fixture of episodic tv once. I know she seared herself into my memory from the moment she contributed a very revealing cameo to an early episode of The Professionals. You just don't forget the women you see in fur coats and fishnets when you're twelve or thereabouts. Ever. And, of course, she was Moneypenny in Never Say Never Again in which Prunella " Kinvig" Gee also appeared and who made her own contribution to timeless JB exchanges: "Ah Mr Bond, I believe I'm having you in half an hour" "Och schplendid, your room or mine?" Ah. Pamela Salem!
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Post by rawlinson on Apr 26, 2017 12:51:11 GMT
Pamela Salem still works regularly with Big Finish on the Counter Measures series. I'd recommend it highly to anyone who hasn't tried it. She's reprising her role from the Doctor Who Remembrance of the Daleks story. Counter Measures itself is like the lost audios from a forgotten ITC series.
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Post by scarred on Apr 26, 2017 14:44:15 GMT
Pamela Salem still works regularly with Big Finish on the Counter Measures series. I'd recommend it highly to anyone who hasn't tried it. She's reprising her role from the Doctor Who Remembrance of the Daleks story. Counter Measures itself is like the lost audios from a forgotten ITC series. I get a lot of Big Finish stuff and you're right, Counter Measures is great.
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Post by helrunar on Apr 26, 2017 14:58:27 GMT
Pamela was so good in that Dalek story written by Ben Aaronovitch. I seem to recall she did some earlier Who as well. Nice to hear of her continued work with Who.
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Post by rawlinson on Apr 26, 2017 16:32:49 GMT
Pamela Salem still works regularly with Big Finish on the Counter Measures series. I'd recommend it highly to anyone who hasn't tried it. She's reprising her role from the Doctor Who Remembrance of the Daleks story. Counter Measures itself is like the lost audios from a forgotten ITC series. I get a lot of Big Finish stuff and you're right, Counter Measures is great. It's one of those series where I didn't expect a lot going in and fell in love with it fairly quickly. Toby Kinsella is one of the truly great magnificent bastards. Sir Humphrey at his most dangerous and Machiavellian, yet you can't help but like him. Have you tried their Dorian Gray series? It's another one I avoided for a while, then I heard David Warner played a demonic Santa in one episode, tried it, and again fell in love with the series.
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Post by The Lurker In The Shadows on Apr 26, 2017 16:56:56 GMT
Pamela was so good in that Dalek story written by Ben Aaronovitch. I seem to recall she did some earlier Who as well. Nice to hear of her continued work with Who. H. She appeared in The Robots of Death in the Tom Baker era and also added her vocal skills as one of the voices of a mad computer in The Face of Evil.
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Post by scarred on Apr 26, 2017 19:00:13 GMT
I get a lot of Big Finish stuff and you're right, Counter Measures is great. It's one of those series where I didn't expect a lot going in and fell in love with it fairly quickly. Toby Kinsella is one of the truly great magnificent bastards. Sir Humphrey at his most dangerous and Machiavellian, yet you can't help but like him. Have you tried their Dorian Gray series? It's another one I avoided for a while, then I heard David Warner played a demonic Santa in one episode, tried it, and again fell in love with the series. Sadly not. I get everything they do apart from Pathfinders which I'm not interested in at all and Dorian Gray. I might pick them up one day (probably after I've eventually worked my way through the mountain of Benny audios I bought in their sale a while back.
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Post by rawlinson on Apr 26, 2017 19:34:01 GMT
Pathfinders is the one I avoid as well. Can't work up any enthusiasm for it in the slightest. I'd really recommend Dorian Gray. The first two series you can buy the individual stories for 2.99 each so you can get a nice taster. Omega Factor s2 tomorrow. Can't wait.
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Post by scarred on Apr 27, 2017 14:54:57 GMT
Did a radio interview today. Hopefully it'll give a nice boost to awareness of the book.
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Post by rawlinson on Apr 28, 2017 18:34:32 GMT
Excellent news, who for? On a similar note, have you tried forwarding a pdf of the book to Robin Ince? Might get a bit of promotion on his Book Shambles podcast. It's the kind of thing he's normally all over.
Bought the Jim Henson/John Hurt series The Storyteller today and realised it would be perfect for you for the 80s volume. Also, the Diff'rent Strokes episode with the paedophile might deserve a mention. Shook me up when I saw it as a kid and for years nobody believed it existed when I talked about it. I've never rewatched it. I should someday to see if it matches my memories.
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