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Post by thecoffinflies on Oct 26, 2011 1:06:12 GMT
I found this film kinda silly.
It wasn't helped by the terrible acting of the two girls, or the strange pronunciations of an evil doctor who sounds like he's reciting English phonetically without knowing what the words mean.
The "crowd" for the matinee at the PCC where I saw it consisted of single, shifty-eyed males like myself, a handful of us who sat as far apart as possible and probably quietly questioned each other's motives for wanting to see it.
Apparently part 2 is more overtly sexual, and I for one cannot wait to see that.
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Post by Dr Strange on Oct 26, 2011 8:29:46 GMT
Part 2 was initially refused a certificate by the BBFC back in June this year, but on 6th October they granted it an 18 certificate (after 32 cuts, amounting to 2 minutes 37 seconds). So far, I don't think anyone's been describing it as better than the first one...
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Post by erebus on Apr 14, 2012 17:14:16 GMT
Ive seen the uncut version of the sequel. For aquired tastes only. The director say the third movie will out gross the second. Need this film like a hole in the head springs to mind.
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Post by kooshmeister on Apr 16, 2012 19:15:43 GMT
I am such a man of such acquired tastes. To be honest, I'm not entirely certain why I decided to see this film, but, when I did, I found it quite well done as a horror movie.
The concept of the human centipede itself (themselves?) isn't necessarily what I found disturbing, but the way the movie really lingers on the emotional suffering of Jenny, Lindsay and Katsuro to keep the horror going after the movie has peaked with the reveal of the "centipede." It went admirably beyond just the gimmicky main concept and showed us the trials and tribulations of the three as they try and escape this madman. If only Katsuro had bit deeper into his throat...
And as for Dr. Heiter, it's nice to see mad scientists (well, mad doctors) made scary again. Yeah, he's over the top, but his determination and willingness to get his hands dirty in pursuit of his mad goal showed him to be a force to be reckoned with. The scene where he's trying to beat down the door is quite intense, and his threats disturbing (if a little odd; yeah, pulling someone's teeth without anesthetic is agonizingly painful, and removing the teeth is part of the procedure, but still). Him treating the "centipede" like a pet was funny.
My only problem is a few things at the end just rub me the wrong way. I found it odd Katsuro selfishly kills himself when confronting Heiter, essentially dooming Lindsay and Jenny. What a nice guy. Also, I'm unsure why Heiter insisted on acting so suspicious when talking to Detective Kranz; he's a really bad liar and it's clear he doesn't handle pressure very well. But since he acted that way with Lindsay and Jenny earlier, why should he act any differently with the police?
In fact, although the way Heiter acts is consistent, it isn't believable that he could remain undetected as a clearly insane person for so long. I don't buy Lindsay and Jenny trusting him when he acts even creepier than the perverted old man in the Mercedes, and, rather than making Kranz and Voller look clever for figuring Heiter out, they just look like they're noticing the blatantly obvious (and consequently are smarter than Lindsay and Jenny) because Heiter isn't even trying to hide how weird he is.
As fort he sequel... it had some good potential, but I don't like how Tom Six went all meta on it.
Some Spoilers for the Sequel!!!
Martin made for an interesting villain protagonist and as screwed up as he is I felt sorry for him because everyone, even his own mother, treated him horribly. Only Dr. Sebring was nice to him, and that is later revealed to be for Sebring's own perverted reasons.
Yeah, Martin is a freak and kind of gross, but mostly inoffensive, and, his plan to create a twelve-person "centipede" notwithstanding, I feel like he wasn't going to to go through with it until the guy who's locked out of his car gets in his face and treats him like shit for no reason. Sure, Martin went out their with his gun, but I am convinced it was in that moment he finally just snapped and wasn't going to take the world's crap anymore.
The other interesting aspect of the character is how upset he gets when he kills someone, intentionally or unintentionally (except his mother). When he's trying to revive the guy he bought the warehouse from. Or the pregnant lady. He seems pretty anguished. But is he upset at their deaths, or because they can't be in his "centipede?" Maybe both? He certainly seems overly protective and sympathetic towards children, likely due to his own horrible experiences as a child. His reaction to the infamous baby-under-the-gas-pedal scene in particular comes to mind... he is enraged.
Maybe I am reading too much into the Martin character and inferring things that aren't there, but nonetheless it's a testament to Laurence Harvey's performance as Martin that he manages to wrench so much emotion, subtle and otherwise, out of a character who never says a single word in the entire film.
Anyway, all that "mainstream critic" type reviewing aside, yeah, I liked both films immensely.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Apr 16, 2012 19:31:28 GMT
It is not medically accurate.
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Post by kooshmeister on Apr 17, 2012 1:44:33 GMT
To an extent, it is, as it is physically possible to attach three people in the manner Dr. Heiter does. Maybe not in the precise manner he shows on his slide projector, but it could be done.
Whether the people would survive very long afterward is another question entirely.
In fact, I think since they begin suffering from a variety of problems from being attached in that manner, such as constipation and blood poisoning, with only Katsuro, at the front, remaining healthy, the movie is at least semi-realistically depicting why such an "experiment" would fail and the "Siamese triplet" would slowly get sick and die. So I think the movie's claim of medically accurate is at least partially justified. Just not maybe 100%.
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Post by erebus on Apr 17, 2012 14:14:32 GMT
To be honest if my mouth is sewn to someones bum, I would prefer to pull and rip my lips off then have them do a number two in my mouth.
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Post by Jojo Lapin X on Apr 17, 2012 15:19:35 GMT
To be honest if my mouth is sewn to someones bum, I would prefer to pull and rip my lips off then have them do a number two in my mouth. I understand that you are trying to convey that you find the idea of swallowing feces disgusting---and to some extent I believe the film plays on such a response---but I do not think you would actually choose to sacrifice your face.
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