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Post by ghostwriter2109 on Apr 3, 2009 9:57:10 GMT
NEWS FLASH - New giant crab novel coming this summer.
Being edited and finessed NOW.
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Post by bushwick on Apr 3, 2009 18:05:43 GMT
NEWS FLASH - New giant crab novel coming this summer. Being edited and finessed NOW. Sweet Lord, I would never have thought it. This is great news! (Film rights? Computer game?)
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antmusic
Crab On The Rampage
I am not Mmmmmaaaaaad!
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Post by antmusic on Apr 4, 2009 2:23:19 GMT
Oi, I shat myself a little!
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Post by Jaqhama on Apr 21, 2009 23:34:36 GMT
I'm really looking forward to it myself.
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Post by funkdooby on Apr 22, 2009 12:32:53 GMT
It's not a GNS novel. It's written by someone else, based on 'an idea' of Guy's, carrying Smith's name on the cover. Very disappointing, to be honest. Why on earth isn't GNS writing it himself?
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Post by ghostwriter2109 on Apr 23, 2009 2:58:38 GMT
Looks like Graham won't be helping Guy or I build our retirement funds You do make us chuckle though.
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Post by funkdooby on Apr 23, 2009 5:19:51 GMT
Find me one long term GNS fan who thinks Guy not writing his own books, but putting his name on the cover, is a good idea This whole GWP/GNS enterprise has an increasingly 'retirement fund' feel to, I'm sad to say
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Post by ghostwriter2109 on Apr 23, 2009 9:12:00 GMT
I promise to give you some free books at the GNS convention in September..that should cheer you up a bit.
Are you grumpy just because you've hit 40? It's the new 30 you know.
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Post by funkdooby on Apr 23, 2009 11:00:03 GMT
I promise to give you some free books at the GNS convention in September..that should cheer you up a bit. Are you grumpy just because you've hit 40? It's the new 30 you know. I haven't hit 40 yet I'm not grumpy - just very disappointed that what seemed at the outset to be a major GNS comeback is slowly being revealed as something else. Surely you must have realised that some fans wouldn't exactly be overjoyed to learn that Guy Smith was at best only having a small input to books carrying his name. I can live with the (IMHO) largely pointless cashing in by reissuing old novels, if that's a means to an end, but for myself, this latest announcement (that forthcoming novels will largely/entirely be written by others) just makes a mockery of the whole enterprise. As I said before, I seriously begin to think Guy has gone doolally if he thinks this is the way forward.
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Post by ghostwriter2109 on Apr 23, 2009 12:49:03 GMT
Explain to me how you know that he has a small input...tell me. I'm sure in all the long conversations Guy and I have on an every other day basis that he has more input than you a willing to believe.
We are putting out a new book by him this year...a new collection of shorts...we released Deadbeat to a wider audience...Maneater, a new novel came out in February...Crabs' Fury was made available again in September...and we've just finished editing Night of the Werewolf and Night of the Crabs in audio for the blind...so tell me...
..what is YOUR real gripe...when you are getting the old...and new...tell me...email me...call me...but tell me what is wrong in what Guy is now doing?
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Post by funkdooby on Apr 23, 2009 13:34:47 GMT
Explain to me how you know that he has a small input...tell me. I'm sure in all the long conversations Guy and I have on an every other day basis that he has more input than you a willing to believe. We are putting out a new book by him this year...a new collection of shorts...we released Deadbeat to a wider audience...Maneater, a new novel came out in February...Crabs' Fury was made available again in September...and we've just finished editing Night of the Werewolf and Night of the Crabs in audio for the blind...so tell me... ..what is YOUR real gripe...when you are getting the old...and new...tell me...email me...call me...but tell me what is wrong in what Guy is now doing? Willie Miekle himself said he'd been brought on board to write Crabs: Carnage, based on an idea of Guy's. The post was here: permutedpress.com/smf/index.php?topic=5474.msg89473 But Willie has now edited it. Clearly, though, this book isn't a Guy N Smith novel. The previous 70-odd GNS novels were written by the man himself, alone. This isn't a collaboration, in the sense of Stephen King/Peter Straub etc. However big or small an input GNS might actually have (and I am pretty sure Willie's original post - made just three days ago - was accurate), he won't be the one sitting down and writing the book. Thus it won't be a Guy N Smith novel. However you dress it up, this is just a case of using the GNS name to help sell books which really don't have a whole lot to do with him. Only one of the above named was what I would call a significant release - Maneater. A proper, original novel, written by GNS. That is what fans want and what has been missing (or at least in very short supply) since the mid-90s. In the early stages, it appeared that GWP would be publishing new full length horror works by Guy Smith. Some would be oldies, finally written up (Bamboo Guerillas 2, for example), some would entirely new. But it seems that thus far it's just been old stuff rehashed (nicely rehashed, in most cases, but still rehashed), and a couple of days ago this 'co-writing' thing was announced. So it seems that we are no nearer to GNS actually publishing new novels with anything approaching his previous regularity after all. My real gripe is that GNS is being used as a commodity to shift product, without actually adding significantly to his own output of work. Yes, it is benefiting him and good luck to him in accruing a nest egg for his retirement (not that I believe he'll ever retire . Attempting to sell what is effectively the work of other writers under the Guy N Smith banner is an appalling idea, IMHO, and is hardly fair on them. If I was still in touch with Guy, I'd ask him how he could ever have thought this was a good idea. He's made a few blunders over the years but this is right up there, in my opinion, which I concede counts for very little.
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Post by carolinec on Apr 23, 2009 13:35:08 GMT
We are putting out a new book by him this year...a new collection of shorts... That would be of interest to me. I've never read any GNS, and I'm more likely to read short stories than a novel, so I look forward to that. But I totally understand Funk's gripe if it is indeed true that this new novel you're talking about isn't actually written by GNS but by someone else under his name. I should think it would be pretty obvious that GNS fans wouldn't like that - particularly if there's an attempt to pass it off as a real GNS book. My feeling is, Ghostwriter, it would be better for you to let people know exactly what the situation is - is the book going to be written by GNS or not? If I found out that my favourite author, Ramsey Campbell, had actually had his most recent books written by someone else but put his name to them, I'd be mortified!
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Post by funkdooby on Apr 23, 2009 14:01:34 GMT
We are putting out a new book by him this year...a new collection of shorts... That would be of interest to me. I've never read any GNS, and I'm more likely to read short stories than a novel, so I look forward to that. But I totally understand Funk's gripe if it is indeed true that this new novel you're talking about isn't actually written by GNS but by someone else under his name. I should think it would be pretty obvious that GNS fans wouldn't like that - particularly if there's an attempt to pass it off as a real GNS book. My feeling is, Ghostwriter, it would be better for you to let people know exactly what the situation is - is the book going to be written by GNS or not? If I found out that my favourite author, Ramsey Campbell, had actually had his most recent books written by someone else but put his name to them, I'd be mortified! This book is definitely, unquestionably, not going to be written by Guy N Smith. He may advise, give lots of input, come up with ideas...but very clearly he isn't going to be the one behind the aged Amstrad (I am betting that's what he still uses to this day). Your mention of RC brings up the obvious point - Campbell's work and style are unique. Any fan of his (as I am myself) would quickly realise that they weren't reading something he'd written, if someone was brought in to put his ideas into novel form. That is obviously also true of GNS. There is no way anyone else will be able to capture that certain something Smith has - the Smithisms, that paticular way of phrasing things etc. This is my concern. I would probably enjoy Willie Miekle's own work (pretty sure I would). But I don't want to read something written by him, based on an idea by GNS - however much input Guy might have. Call me old fashioned. Regarding the short fiction of GNS - IMHO, it's mostly quite poor and certainly doesn't give one an accurate picture of what his novels are like. Most of the key features which make his longer fiction so enjoyable are absent from the short stories. If you were ever going to give Smith a try, I would suggest Night Of The Crabs, The Slime Beast, The Sucking Pit or the completely legendary and entirely fantastic The Wood - a novel the praises of which I have been singing for over twenty years, most of which have fallen on deaf ears, pretty much like everything else I tend to say
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Post by ghostwriter2109 on Apr 23, 2009 14:49:25 GMT
Thanks...I needed that...I've been in a foul mood all day because I can't get the Porsche I want in the right colour.
Anyway...I did release The Wood as an eBook...gave us a huge new marketing base to rerelease all old classics in digital form to. (Gotta love those eReaders and Kindles).
I think a good number of Guy's shorts are great...but that's just me.
No I'm in a good mood again...ta.
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Post by ghostwriter2109 on Apr 23, 2009 14:51:16 GMT
Caroline...send me your address and I'll make sure you get a review copy of the collection.
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